Recording and mixing poor vocal.

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Ok, I really want to know how can you make a poor vocal sound good, is there some program you use, or some special effects?


Reason I ask is because, I have heard many people/band's vocal sound really nice on CD, recording, but HORRIBLE live. (i.e Linkin Park)
 
Yeah man, pitch correction is a magical thing. Ever hear Blink182 live?

I love their recordings but live their singing is way off.
 
Pitch correction is not a good idea to be using throughout a whole track. Use it to correct one or two bad spots only. What you probably need is to use a condensor mic with a bit of compression to make your vocals fuller and more vibrant. The best thing to do is have the singer learn how to sing and keep tracking until he gets it right.
 
I think the question here is how do you make someone sound good when that someone can't sing. A good mic and pre with some compression will make the the vocal sound more rich, full, whatever but it can't make a bad singer sing on key.
 
EdWonbass said:
I think the question here is how do you make someone sound good when that someone can't sing. A good mic and pre with some compression will make the the vocal sound more rich, full, whatever but it can't make a bad singer sing on key.
I hear you, I just don't agree.
 
NYMorningstar said:
Pitch correction is not a good idea to be using throughout a whole track. Use it to correct one or two bad spots only. What you probably need is to use a condensor mic with a bit of compression to make your vocals fuller and more vibrant. The best thing to do is have the singer learn how to sing and keep tracking until he gets it right.

I do agree with the keep tracking until he gets it right but what if it's hopeless?
Then you got to bust out the pitch correction.

I myself have never used it and have no idea how it works but I know it's out there and it gets used as a crutch for a lot of singers that have bad pitch.
 
this question crossed my mind a few times,
i once had a terrible singer in my room, i tried a few different microphones and i never got a decent result (not even talking about Good);

in the end someone else sung that part of the song and it just sounded ALOT better ... even with a shitty mic i got better results...
its like my drumkit, sometimes my snare sounds so rotten, and i can't fix it in the mix or whatever, only because it sounded like crap when i played it...

but i think you won't replace the singer,
so playing with compression always is fun if the vocal track sounds bad anyway... don't let the singer stand too close to the mic,
you don't want too many plop sounds and sibilance,
don't record distorted, use compression to keep the volume up and the peaks down, and add a little bit of reverb to 'mask' the bad singing...

and and,,,, record your vocal track MORE than once, and play that together,
i sometimes had surprizing results when i did that,,,this seems to mask the "out of tune" notes a bit...and makes the vocal more full

and remember, if it sucks now, then it will probably sound nice in a year or so.... keep on practicing !

cheerz
 
The sound you are looking for could be autotune but also, most certainly, properly adjusted compression.
 
recording w reverb

Hi guys - Re pitch problems - I have been recording vocals dry but w reverb in the hdphones. I notice the pitch isn't as precise as I'd like. I'm wondering if hearing yr voice w reverb leads to being more careless w pitch? Do you guys ever record w.o. any verb in the singer's monitors? thanks
 
paresh said:
Hi guys - Re pitch problems - I have been recording vocals dry but w reverb in the hdphones. I notice the pitch isn't as precise as I'd like. I'm wondering if hearing yr voice w reverb leads to being more careless w pitch? Do you guys ever record w.o. any verb in the singer's monitors? thanks

Recording DRY is one of the things to do to stay on pitch and properly hear yourself, if recording via headphones. However, another thing to try is keeping one phone off of either the L or R ear, partially or fully. Experiment with that.

Good luck,

~Daniel
 
1 hdphone off...

i tried one phone off & one on briefly...can't say as I heard a difference. What does it do?
 
paresh said:
i tried one phone off & one on briefly...can't say as I heard a difference. What does it do?

Doing this lets you hear your voice as you normally would if you didn't have a mic and headphones. I have tried this before but found it to be distracting. I like to record and monitor my voice dry and un-messed with.
 
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