Recording Advice

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Hi guys, first post here.

To cut a long story short I have recently got together a smalltime band as a hobby and we are interested in possibly recording and putting the music onto cd, mainly for our own entertainment.

Basically I'm looking for some advice on software and equipment I may need to record vocals, acoustic & electric guitars and bass guitar on my pc and possibly add drums using midis or something similar. If anyone has any advice please get in touch.

Cheers!
 
Welcome to the forum, as always the first advise, get a good soundcard which is very important (M-Audio cards are good) and then get a cakewalk software. you are good to go. Lets hear from other too..........
 
Thanks for the advice so far, at the moment my budget is almost non-existant though this will be changing soon, I don't want to be spending extortunate amounts but just any advice is appreciated

Cheers
 
Like macaloon said, M-audio cards are good. I have a delta 1010 and it seems pretty decent. As far as software goes, you might want to download demo versions of various applications.
 
macaloon said:
Thanks for the advice so far, at the moment my budget is almost non-existant though this will be changing soon, I don't want to be spending extortunate amounts but just any advice is appreciated

Cheers

it's impossible to get decent recordings without decent equipment, which costs $$$$$$$$!!! Welcome to the black hole of recording equipment expenditures...
 
Hey, thanks again, I understand that I won't be able to get studio quality recordings from a pc in my bedroom but I am planning on expanding on this as I get more money.

At the moment I am only looking for the basics to get something sounding semi-decent onto a cd. I expected to hear that I would not be getting these things from a months pay. I was only looking for information on the basics.

Thanks for all advice given so far, I'll have a go with wot I have but all advoce is still appreciated.

Cheers
 
Yo Macaloon! Recording, even a "decent sounding" CD, costs money, a lot of it. Get over it. Frankly, with a nonexistent budget, Your best bet is to find a semi-pro who has a bunch of gear, and will record you for the practice or for real cheap. Spook around on this board, because you might find that guy (or girl) here. It's a pretty good place to start looking. Ball park- a really basic system, I mean stripped down, is about a grand. Kickass project studio- $20 grand. Fly by night pro- $30-50 grand Serious pro- $100 grand and up.
While you're contemplating how to get money to buy gear (usually involves work), study gear, so when you get some money, you won't waste it on the wrong gear. Most people will suggest the computer route bang for buck, and that makes more sense if you intend to use canned drums. To do any effective recording on a budget, you will need a soundcard, your existing computer, a microphone preamp, probably 2 channels, a pair of small diaphragm condensers, a large diaphragm condenser, and a dynamic mic. You will need a mic stand, several cables (good ones cost more than you think), a pop filter (you can make that), and for what you want to record, you'll want to add a compressor as soon as the money becomes available, then FX/Reverb. All of this assumes you can play the material one track at a time. If you have a PA, you can record yourself as a live band, with a pair of mics in stereo. It limits your editing capabilities, but if you have a half decent PA, you can get surprisingly good sound in the right room. Find that room.
I hope this is helping- Here's a few pieces of all-star cheap gear-
Dynamic mic-Shure SM57 $80 new- find a used one on ebay
small diaphragm condensers-Oktava MC012 price varies at Guitar Centers only- $100-165 the pair
large diaphragm condenser- Studio Projects B-1 $80, Marshall MXL V67G $100
preamp- M-Audio DMP-3- discontinued, but still a few around. Occasionally sold at GC for $120, but usually $200.
compressor- FMR Audio RNC $180
FX/Reverb- TC Electronics M300- $200
I won't recommend sound cards, because I don't know anything about them really. I'm used to hard drive standalone and am learning Pro Tools based DAW.
Last just for fun- heres my idea of wicked cheap but surprisingly effective.-
Fostex MR-8 8 track standalone digital recorder $250, and those 2 little Oktavas. Phantom power and improved gain structure is added by M Audio Audiobuddy, an $80 preamp. One mic stand- $20. A stereo mic mount $10 and some cables (variable depending on quality), and you're good to go. See- it takes money- get over it.-Good luck, and welcome to the board!
 
Hey, thanks for giving it to me straight. As I said in my original post I was lookiing for info on what I would need for a basic setup and thats exactly what you gave me.

As for getting money I am working, I'm just waiting on the savings account increasing enough for it to be worth having a spending spree.

Feel free to keep posting advice for me, as I am a newbie (I know it's not an excuse).

Cheers
 
Richie, I think for starting out you could skip the outboard pre. :D You do get some good quality (I assume) out of the Fostex. Our Roland pres were plenty good for starting out.

I don't know....just saves $80 for the time being. (You might even be able to get 2 MosterCables with that money)
 
No offense Outlaws, but why would you skip on the outboard pre, and then spend more on cables. You probably won't hear a bit of difference between monster and hosa on a bare-bones setup such as that.

Assuming your recorder has phantom power for the condensors, I'd spend that $80 on a SM57. It will do worlds more good than some monster cables.

My .02

If you want real bare bones, pick up a used Tascam 424 mkii ($150-200) on ebay, and a pair of Sm57's. After getting cables, some mic stands, and headphones, you'd probably still be under $500. It's not great, but it gets sound onto tape.
 
Dethska said:
but why would you skip on the outboard pre, and then spend more on cables.

Because the pre you get is more than decent, and if you want to save money, then you have to buy cables anyway. Those are going to run about $20-25 a piece. So if you get the Monster cables for few bucks more, then you NEVER have to replace them because they break.
 
Outlaws, you can't skip the outboard pre with an MR-8. Look ma, no phantom power, and a pair of dynamics leave much to be desired for stereo live recording. That problem could be solved by using a stereo one point mic with battery power, but the pair of Oktavas and a small pre are about the same price and way more versatile.-Richie
 
Richard Monroe said:
Look ma, no phantom power

LMAO!
I didn't know that the Fostex didn't have phantom power. I guess that changes a few things. :D
 
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