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dj duce nutes
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I don't know about your area that you live in but have you notices that record pool's are way too expensive?
Flo' Dolo
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You buggin. On the real.
You can't buy a fraction of the volume of shit you get in a store for the price of membership in any record pool anywhere, even Cali. Syad at WordLife (L.A.) used to hold me down real good before he got on some criminal shit early last summer.
Dues seem to be about the same coast to coast, low end $65.00 a month (waaaay cheap) to maybe $125.00 ( a shade over the average).
More important than the price is the service they give & the props they got with the fucking reps who serve 'em. That's where you really gotta be careful. Lots of pools are fly-by-night, and even those that aren't can still be shady, shabby, and sorry.
What kind of prices you seeing?
fd
You can't buy a fraction of the volume of shit you get in a store for the price of membership in any record pool anywhere, even Cali. Syad at WordLife (L.A.) used to hold me down real good before he got on some criminal shit early last summer.
Dues seem to be about the same coast to coast, low end $65.00 a month (waaaay cheap) to maybe $125.00 ( a shade over the average).
More important than the price is the service they give & the props they got with the fucking reps who serve 'em. That's where you really gotta be careful. Lots of pools are fly-by-night, and even those that aren't can still be shady, shabby, and sorry.
What kind of prices you seeing?
fd
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dj duce nutes
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The problem I have with record pool's is this.....
1. You seldom get doubles (if you do its probally wack shit)
2. Time factor: By the time you get somthing you really need (if you get it at all) its so old that you have allready bought it.
3. Back to the point : The Chulumpa ( Northern cali slang for money) I have found that I will get the records I need by digging, internet ect and will spend less money than the $95 amonth (not to mention the $175 start up fee) record pool that we have in town (the other's are not even worth talking about) I'll put it like this.... if you know a record pool that can meet the above demands.... Put me in the matrix (more of that slang)
I do clubs here in town and the reallity is that you have to have top 40 shit. That's what the record pool is for in my eyes (allthough somtimes you do get underground shit but its far inbetween). If they are not doing that I would reather be on my own hype (more slang)
If any one has a diffrent view post maybe I'm wrong (but I dobut it)
1. You seldom get doubles (if you do its probally wack shit)
2. Time factor: By the time you get somthing you really need (if you get it at all) its so old that you have allready bought it.
3. Back to the point : The Chulumpa ( Northern cali slang for money) I have found that I will get the records I need by digging, internet ect and will spend less money than the $95 amonth (not to mention the $175 start up fee) record pool that we have in town (the other's are not even worth talking about) I'll put it like this.... if you know a record pool that can meet the above demands.... Put me in the matrix (more of that slang)
I do clubs here in town and the reallity is that you have to have top 40 shit. That's what the record pool is for in my eyes (allthough somtimes you do get underground shit but its far inbetween). If they are not doing that I would reather be on my own hype (more slang)
If any one has a diffrent view post maybe I'm wrong (but I dobut it)
Flo' Dolo
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1. Like I said, Chief, you buggin.
2. You can't buy 20 single copies of shit for less than monthly pool dues. I used to dig for new joints and scoop them for 2 bones a piece, that was in the early 90s, now I see them same shops moving them new joints for like 5-6 beans a copy and most of the time, that's cuz if you regular & drop coin they may show some love. If you doing better where you shop at, that's a nice lick, eat all you can.
3. Consider the membership fee just that, a membership fee. You gotta pay to play. It even costs to join the "Y." Why should joining a pool be any different? Most slots are full and all are coveted. If you don't wanna pay, the next cat will. Why, because (s)he's serious. Not liking the service is one thing, crying about having to pay to get in is bullshit. Don't people pay to get into the club(s) you play at? And after that, don't they pay for drinks and shit, too? And if they come every week, don't they pay every week not only for the entrance (one-night "membership"), but also the servicing they get (dj skills, drinks, atmosphere, etc)?
4. You spend less than 95 a month & scoop how many records? 90 bucks on a good day can get you what, 15 records?
As opposed to 10+ joints per week on the low end from a pool?
5. There are plenty of decent record pools servicing pop & dance shit, r&b and radio rap, underground hip-hop, and house shit. If you can't find one then you ain't really on no looking-for-real type shit.
6. Sucks for you that there ain't no spots for heads in your A.O., and that you can't find a way to work in a healthy amount of beats into your set. It can be done. What did you write earlier? Something about being on your own hype? Make it so, then.
7. If you gotta play radio shit cuz of where you spin, then what's the problem with the stuff the pool you know services? And...
8. Why don't you join a hip-hop record pool instead of checking out the more commercial pools if you want hip-hop shit? Don't go to the shoe store to buy books, not gon' be able to do it.
9. I get doubles & sometimes triples (and even rare quadruples!) of damn near every piece of wax I see from my 2 of my, uh, associates. Of course, I PAY for doubles with one cat (just a lil' more than my regular dues - but only 2 out of 90 can do that, and I'm one of 'em), the other, they show me hella love cuz I handle my B.I. with them. In both cases, I earned that shit. You gotta put it down like that, too. Some directors will let you get 2 separate memberships, but then all you save is shipping, and that's iffy cuz they get limited #s of wax, and prolly need feedback on both (very limited) memberships.
10. I get a whole lotta shit well before it hits the scene - sometimes months - (the whole purpose of pools & djs is to break joints, right?), and the other shit comes at the same time it hits the airways or whatever. You need to find a real pool instead of the one you're talking about. You don't have to live in the same city to join, normally it's the same geographic region. A few service both nationally & some even internationally.
What's the name of the pool you talking about, anyway?
11. BTW - Wordlife was a strictly underground pool, and there's more out there.
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No pools I know of are in the matrix. That shit is 2 years or so late. Meet me in '04 and we can holla.
Lucky Number 13.
Take this however you want but...
Get offa California's dick. You don't own the state, the state owns you. If I want somebody from the left coast to up me on shit, I'll call E-40 or Safir.
fd
2. You can't buy 20 single copies of shit for less than monthly pool dues. I used to dig for new joints and scoop them for 2 bones a piece, that was in the early 90s, now I see them same shops moving them new joints for like 5-6 beans a copy and most of the time, that's cuz if you regular & drop coin they may show some love. If you doing better where you shop at, that's a nice lick, eat all you can.
3. Consider the membership fee just that, a membership fee. You gotta pay to play. It even costs to join the "Y." Why should joining a pool be any different? Most slots are full and all are coveted. If you don't wanna pay, the next cat will. Why, because (s)he's serious. Not liking the service is one thing, crying about having to pay to get in is bullshit. Don't people pay to get into the club(s) you play at? And after that, don't they pay for drinks and shit, too? And if they come every week, don't they pay every week not only for the entrance (one-night "membership"), but also the servicing they get (dj skills, drinks, atmosphere, etc)?
4. You spend less than 95 a month & scoop how many records? 90 bucks on a good day can get you what, 15 records?
As opposed to 10+ joints per week on the low end from a pool?
5. There are plenty of decent record pools servicing pop & dance shit, r&b and radio rap, underground hip-hop, and house shit. If you can't find one then you ain't really on no looking-for-real type shit.
6. Sucks for you that there ain't no spots for heads in your A.O., and that you can't find a way to work in a healthy amount of beats into your set. It can be done. What did you write earlier? Something about being on your own hype? Make it so, then.
7. If you gotta play radio shit cuz of where you spin, then what's the problem with the stuff the pool you know services? And...
8. Why don't you join a hip-hop record pool instead of checking out the more commercial pools if you want hip-hop shit? Don't go to the shoe store to buy books, not gon' be able to do it.
9. I get doubles & sometimes triples (and even rare quadruples!) of damn near every piece of wax I see from my 2 of my, uh, associates. Of course, I PAY for doubles with one cat (just a lil' more than my regular dues - but only 2 out of 90 can do that, and I'm one of 'em), the other, they show me hella love cuz I handle my B.I. with them. In both cases, I earned that shit. You gotta put it down like that, too. Some directors will let you get 2 separate memberships, but then all you save is shipping, and that's iffy cuz they get limited #s of wax, and prolly need feedback on both (very limited) memberships.
10. I get a whole lotta shit well before it hits the scene - sometimes months - (the whole purpose of pools & djs is to break joints, right?), and the other shit comes at the same time it hits the airways or whatever. You need to find a real pool instead of the one you're talking about. You don't have to live in the same city to join, normally it's the same geographic region. A few service both nationally & some even internationally.
What's the name of the pool you talking about, anyway?
11. BTW - Wordlife was a strictly underground pool, and there's more out there.
12.
No pools I know of are in the matrix. That shit is 2 years or so late. Meet me in '04 and we can holla.
Lucky Number 13.
Take this however you want but...
Get offa California's dick. You don't own the state, the state owns you. If I want somebody from the left coast to up me on shit, I'll call E-40 or Safir.
fd
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dj duce nutes
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I can dig it. Hey folks I am all about learning. I am just talking about my experiences in the game. I am from Oakland, Ca and I just wanna let ya'll know that we create a lot of shit that we don't get credit for. But that's not the point here. I just want to learn other cat's experiences so I can make myself better and my experience is that record pool's are wack as fuck...period. The main label's that people see on bet, mtv all day every day hardly service pool's. These cd dj's are changing the game period. I
Flo' Dolo
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Again, what pool did you check into?
What kind of stuff would you like to get from a pool? Strictly hip-hop? R&B & radio rap? A mixture?
I can help you find a decent pool if you say what you need.
The pop shit you see on BET, MTV, etc is the most consistent shit that urban pools get serviced, because that's where all the money is - just like the format at the spot you spin at. If you want that kind of stuff, it's definately easy to find a good provider.
If your serious about joining somewhere, say so & we can see what's what.
I can plug you up with some ok cats & you can drop 'em my name so they'll at least consider you for membership if you don't meet all the pool requirements or they got a waiting list or some shit, but not unless I believe you're serious. Most importantly, if you ain't willing to pay the membership fee, then don't bother. Pool directors gotta eat, too... If you ain't responsible enough to do feedback on time, every week, then don't bother. That's how the pool directors keep the product flowing in to feed us thirsty cats.
I can also shoot you in the direction of some pools that I think are decent, though I'm not a member. I can ask around for you to get more info about decent shit in your A.O., but again, you can't be moaning about paying to get product.
Oh yeah, CD service on the urban tip ain't bad, but it ain't as lovely as getting wax, service-wise. On the underground tip, forget about it. Most pool directors will tell you wax has been steadily on the rise with regard to jocks in larger venues and those who tour and shit because people still like to see cats manipulating wax, even though CDJ units can be great for mixing & scratch djs. I use one occasionally, but mostly just to give my own shit burn during my sets.
Hopefully i'll be unloading my 1000 & replacing it with something BIGGER, like the new Numark CDX. If i'm lucky, some peeps I know can get Numark direct to bust me one off at a price I can eat easily. (Sorry I got kinda off-topic)
Anyway, what up wit it?
fd
What kind of stuff would you like to get from a pool? Strictly hip-hop? R&B & radio rap? A mixture?
I can help you find a decent pool if you say what you need.
The pop shit you see on BET, MTV, etc is the most consistent shit that urban pools get serviced, because that's where all the money is - just like the format at the spot you spin at. If you want that kind of stuff, it's definately easy to find a good provider.
If your serious about joining somewhere, say so & we can see what's what.
I can plug you up with some ok cats & you can drop 'em my name so they'll at least consider you for membership if you don't meet all the pool requirements or they got a waiting list or some shit, but not unless I believe you're serious. Most importantly, if you ain't willing to pay the membership fee, then don't bother. Pool directors gotta eat, too... If you ain't responsible enough to do feedback on time, every week, then don't bother. That's how the pool directors keep the product flowing in to feed us thirsty cats.
I can also shoot you in the direction of some pools that I think are decent, though I'm not a member. I can ask around for you to get more info about decent shit in your A.O., but again, you can't be moaning about paying to get product.
Oh yeah, CD service on the urban tip ain't bad, but it ain't as lovely as getting wax, service-wise. On the underground tip, forget about it. Most pool directors will tell you wax has been steadily on the rise with regard to jocks in larger venues and those who tour and shit because people still like to see cats manipulating wax, even though CDJ units can be great for mixing & scratch djs. I use one occasionally, but mostly just to give my own shit burn during my sets.
Hopefully i'll be unloading my 1000 & replacing it with something BIGGER, like the new Numark CDX. If i'm lucky, some peeps I know can get Numark direct to bust me one off at a price I can eat easily. (Sorry I got kinda off-topic)
Anyway, what up wit it?
fd
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dj duce nutes
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Yeah man I want to get like a cool mixture of all types of shit. I just found out I will be moving to atlanta in April so it will be very important that I get some of that down south shit. So I just want to join a pool that is diverse. If its a pool with a hard working director (hopefully somone with call letter's) I have no problem, paying. Real talk I just don't want to get in another trash ass record pool. I am doing a mixxtape right now you said your own shit. what do you do?
Flo' Dolo
New member
dj duce nutes said:
If you aren't a working DJ (like after you move), some pools get kinda finicky, only a few slots for bedroom jocks, but they're available for sure. You'll get all the dirty shit you can stand if you join a pool in the southeast, that's for sure. I won't refer you to anything I wouldn't subscribe to myself. I dunno what you mean by "call letters," but it don't matter, if you're really on that pool shit, I got you.
Email me at:
thedirtroadshow@comcast.net
when you make your move & i'll do whatever I can to help. Maybe we can even break bread and heat up the tables together. I see places all around there pretty regularly, especially spring, summer, and early fall.
I'll post links to a few in the region that you may wanna investigate. Check their feedback lists carefully. Take note of what songs chart with the jocks first in each pool (that'll show who gets serviced first, which pool's jocks lean towards a certain type of shit, etc), and, especially if you're in moving to the bottom, be sure and ask me about whatever you find (if you want my input) - I'm very familiar with what's what down there.
If you're in ATL, I can shoot you the names/locations of some shops you may wanna check out and help you find 'em once you know exactly where you're living. I can prolly even direct you there via car or public transit, too, and, if you think your skills are up to snuff, put you on with some cats who'll at least show you love on the strength so if you come right, you'll have some new fam.
If pool dues are too steep for you to begin with, I'll gladly sell you (at a very nice price) heaps of shit I get to help get you situated, if you're interested & willing to pay the postage. We can talk more about whatever privately if you wanna explore some of that other shit, a'ight?
Look here just to get your feet wet, then ask away if you got questions.
http://www.recordpools.org/
fd
Flo' Dolo
New member
dj duce nutes said:
If you aren't a working DJ (like after you move), some pools get kinda finicky, only a few slots for bedroom jocks, but they're available for sure. You'll get all the dirty shit you can stand if you join a pool in the southeast, that's for sure. I won't refer you to anything I wouldn't subscribe to myself. I dunno what you mean by "call letters," but it don't matter, if you're really on that pool shit, I got you.
Email me at:
thedirtroadshow@comcast.net
when you make your move & i'll do whatever I can to help. Maybe we can even break bread and heat up the tables together. I see places all around there pretty regularly, especially spring, summer, and early fall.
I'll post links to a few in the region that you may wanna investigate. Check their feedback lists carefully. Take note of what songs chart with the jocks first in each pool (that'll show who gets serviced first, which pool's jocks lean towards a certain type of shit, etc), and, especially if you're in moving to the bottom, be sure and ask me about whatever you find (if you want my input) - I'm very familiar with what's what down there.
If you're in ATL, I can shoot you the names/locations of some shops you may wanna check out and help you find 'em once you know exactly where you're living. I can prolly even direct you there via car or public transit, too, and, if you think your skills are up to snuff, put you on with some cats who'll at least show you love on the strength so if you come right, you'll have some new fam.
If pool dues are too steep for you to begin with, I'll gladly sell you (at a very nice price) heaps of shit I get to help get you situated, if you're interested & willing to pay the postage. We can talk more about whatever privately if you wanna explore some of that other shit, a'ight?
Look here just to get your feet wet, then ask away if you got questions.
http://www.recordpools.org/
Again, what is the name of the pool you're so unhappy with in Oakland? Was it Rico Casnova's joint? Prolly not if you say the service was shitty, but maybe so.
For future reference:
Many pools operate & service their djs according to their "bin" numbers. These are actual boxes ("bins) numbered from 1 to whatever, and the lower your number, the better your service. See, if a pool gets serviced 30 pieces of a title & you're inside the top 30 you'll get a copy. If not, you short. That may explain why your previous experience was all fucked up in the game, I dunno. Some pools use bins, some use "the buddy system," and some only service the exact number of jocks they're sure they'll get wax for. It all depends...
Oh yeah, as far as what I "do," well, pretty much nothing. I'm a sloth.
fd