Recommend a vocal mic for me?

[alanhyatt]

I don't think it has a trannie, Alan. You must be thinking of the 2001, which I think is kind of el-stinko.

I apologize for baiting you on that one, though, Alan. I just wanted to test and see if you'd answer. Sorry.

Chess,

Yes, you are correct. I am not a Marshall expert, the 2003 is FET, which is why I probably liked it more than the V67. I will look at my 2001 I have as well, I am pretty sure that one as well as the V67 are transformer based. They are also older units, so they still may have the older transformers that Marshall has said they improved. I don't feel baited We have been in the warehouse for 20 hours a day shipping, so I have been a little tired.

 

[alanhyatt]

Duplicate

 

[ametth]

Well I will put my 2 cents in and wait to get blasted for it, but even though it is my company and I do gain by it, I still have opinions and am entitled to offer them. After all, I have engineered for many artists in very high profile studios, and still do.

The Studio Projects B3 at $159.00 offers 3 patterns, Hi-Pass filter and 10db pad. You "Do Not" need a shock mount as it is already done for you internally. The advantage of the three patterns is endless, and the sound of the B3 is amazing. I have used it against many other mics, but will not make judgements other than to say this mic will floor a good deal of users...even on this group when they actually use it.

They have been shipped to the dealers, so MacMidi, Back Porch Music, Coast Recording, 8th Street, Full Compass, Music Center, and many more will have them in stock. Some tomorrow, some Friday, and we continue to ship, so by next week I know many of you will be getting your mics. So I think you ought to give this one a good look, and it comes in well under your budget, and offers more than any of the mics mentioned so far.

Ok guys, now is the time you hammer me for Spam!

Alan Hyatt

Now he as no shame about it, the true colors show.....we really need an active moderator in this forum, bad.

 

[ametth]

I would like recommendations on a vocal mic for my home studio. I presently have a CAD 22, which is marginally better than the Zeron I used to use, but still not really very good.

My criteria for purchase:

Absolutely maximum price of $200. Preferably around $100, if that's possible.

Used is okay.

I don't know if I should be looking for a condenser mic or not. What are the advantages/disadvantages versus other types?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. If you need more info from me on my needs, please let me know. Thanks!

I bet you could find a used RE-20 for that much if you look around....but I agree with Tonewoods if you cant...get an RE-16.

 

[ditnoj]

I'd be careful with that RE20 if your in a not so quiet environment...

Mr. Hyatt:

What's your opinion between the B3 and the C1 for that first decent and probably only
decent for a while condenser that has to do everything in a home studio?

D out ITNOJ

 

[ditnoj]

I'd be careful with that RE20 if your in a not so quiet environment...

Mr. Hyatt:

What's your opinion between the B3 and the C1 for that first decent and probably only
decent for a while condenser that has to do everything in a home studio?

D out ITNOJ

 

[Recording Engineer]

Simple

Alan Hyatt of PMI Audio is the designer and owner Studio Perojects mics. I know, you know it, everyone knows. I know, you know, eveyone knows, Alan knows, that Alan a biased opinion for that reason. I would be too if I designed a mic or two. Take it for what it is and move-on.

Of course, NONE of the above should overshadow Alan Hyatt's list of accomplishments as an engineer!

I'm NOT going to baby-sit! So please get a new moderator as that I won't do and that's what many people here want. And from what I understand, new moderators are in the works.

But quite frankly, there's A LOT of shit out there in life, you best learn to realize that and simply ignore it! YOU are the ONLY moderator in life!!!

 

[ametth]

Re: Simple

Alan Hyatt of PMI Audio is the designer and owner Studio Perojects mics. I know, you know it, everyone knows. I know, you know, eveyone knows, Alan knows, that Alan a biased opinion for that reason. I would be too if I designed a mic or two. Take it for what it is and move-on.

I'll take it as spam, thank you.

Of course, NONE of the above should overshadow Alan Hyatt's list of accomplishments as an engineer!

I'm NOT going to baby-sit! So please get a new moderator as that I won't do and that's what many people here want. And from what I understand, new moderators are in the works.

I thought the job of moderator was to keep the forum clean (spam free) and on topic? I like you Weston, but frankly, your not up to the job. I'm glad your stepping down.

But quite frankly, there's A LOT of shit out there in life, you best learn to realize that and simply ignore it! YOU are the ONLY moderator in life!!!

Your right..I do ignore most of it. But I have respect for David and this board. David hates spam, I hate spam. I guess you dont have the same respect. It's ok. Good luck!!!

 

[chessparov]

ametth, out of curiosity, if you were in Alan's shoes how would you
word your information about the B3 differently?

 

[larrye]

I, for one, would like to hear Alan's reply to the b-1 vs c-1 question!

larry

 

[toorglick]

I retract my statement. It's not necessary. May the Force be with us all.

 

[chessrock]

Stop it, you guys. Just stop it, okay? Thank you.

I'm sure we all appreciate your intentions, Ametth, but isn't this the sort of thing that belongs in the feedback area? If I were the moderator, I would listen to and appreciate your concerns, and give them some serious thought. But then I would appropriately move them to the "feedback" section where they belong.

Okay, so maybe I would move Alan's comments in to the "Free Ads" (legal spam) section while I was at it, but . . . . . . but this is the mic forum, guys, let's save the spamming and the spamming complaints for where they belong! Two wrongs don't make a right, Ammetth and . . .

What the heck am I doing? ? ? Moderator! Please move my comments to the feedback section as well. I'm way out of line on this one! Thank you.

 

[ametth]

ametth, out of curiosity, if you were in Alan's shoes how would you
word your information about the B3 differently?

If I were the owner of a mic compnay, I would not spam the boards about the mics I pimp, espically on a board that does not allow this type of advertising. But alas, we have no moderation on this board.

The dude asked for a vocal mic, Alan recommended his mics (suprise suprise). Dont you see the rub there?

Now if someone asks specifically about his mics, then by all means he can ansewr them, I think thats great. I dont even care if he states his opinions on other companys, thats what we're here for. But when you start recommending your own mics with no abandon, thats where you cross the line. Alan has no shame and is a salesman through and through.

 

[ametth]

ametth, what an ass you seem. You expect everyone to conform to your views? Don't deny it, either, because it's obvious your definition of SPAM in this instance definately does not fit mine, nor I reckon many other folk who can rationalize Mr. Hyatt's or any other person's comments for themselves. Sounds to me like a personal issue you have, actually it sounds like multiple, serious personal issues, and you would rather this place conform to your vision than let it be what it is.

On other boards of larger stature company owners or executives post freely and are welcome, rather than chastised. From the folks at Fender to Joe Naylor of Reverend on the FenderForum (which, if you want an example of precision moderation, is one of the best examples), to many of the boutique effects builders posting on the effects forum at Harmony Central, to the boutique amp makers post at the Vintage Amplifier Forum.

I personally am interested in the viewpoints of the manufacturers and it's one of the many reasons I like to read boards such as this. SPAM it is not. I can post SPAM for you if you'd like an example of what SPAM truely is. Take your vendetta elsewhere.

toorglick,

What a sheep you seem. Like I've said before. I think it's great that Alan is here and I really do enjoy some of his posts. But, when he starts recommending his own mikes, that crosses the line. That is spam. It has nothing to do with "conforming to my views" Alan has no class and I would be ashamed to be his friend.

As far as other effect builders, amp builders, etc...on other boards. Do you see them recommending their own equipmet every chance they get? I sure dont. Thats the difference.

ametth

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cheers.

 

[ditnoj]

Of course, I'll admit it's spam if somebody can prove to me that what he
says about his microphones isn't true because my main interest is
HEARING WHAT HE HAS TO SAY ABOUT MICS and whatever anyone else has to say that is helpful also...

So returning to my unanswered item specific question which I will now rephrase as to invite a qualified response:

Given that various seemingly experienced registered members of this electronic bulletin board mutually beneficial and educational site have endorsed by means of favorable comment and the ultimate consumer endorsement, which is the actual investment of hard earned monetary renumeration, the Studio Project line of condenser microphones... I humbly request that someone who could truly consider themselves extremely well versed in the specifications and real world response of the various component elements of said series of microphones, an expert on Studio Projects products if you will, would inform me as to their opinion on which of the following: the C1 or the (spammedly rumored to be shipping) new B3 would be the best choice for the first and possibly only (for a while, anyway) condenser microphone for a home based studio where it would be the condenser "workhorse" (please excuse a second incident of slang) in a studio whose only other microphone to date is a Sennheiser E835. And if said expert could also expound on the two word question that has eternally frustrated any pupil answering an essay question...And why?

Thank you for your consideration and forthcoming response...

D out ITNOJ

 

[Randy Yell]

Warning!Warning!Spam Police on patrol!!Danger Will Robinson!Spam attack!!

Dude,if you don't like a post don't read the frickin thing.Frankly I find all the spam accussations a LOT more annoying than the post that they are directed at.

 

[ametth]

Of course, I'll admit it's spam if somebody can prove to me that what he
says about his microphones isn't true because my main interest is
HEARING WHAT HE HAS TO SAY ABOUT MICS and whatever anyone else has to say that is helpful also...

So returning to my unanswered item specific question which I will now rephrase as to invite a qualified response:

Given that various seemingly experienced registered members of this electronic bulletin board mutually beneficial and educational site have endorsed by means of favorable comment and the ultimate consumer endorsement, which is the actual investment of hard earned monetary renumeration, the Studio Project line of condenser microphones... I humbly request that someone who could truly consider themselves extremely well versed in the specifications and real world response of the various component elements of said series of microphones, an expert on Studio Projects products if you will, would inform me as to their opinion on which of the following: the C1 or the (spammedly rumored to be shipping) new B3 would be the best choice for the first and possibly only (for a while, anyway) condenser microphone for a home based studio where it would be the condenser "workhorse" (please excuse a second incident of slang) in a studio whose only other microphone to date is a Sennheiser E835. And if said expert could also expound on the two word question that has eternally frustrated any pupil answering an essay question...And why?

Thank you for your consideration and forthcoming response...

D out ITNOJ

It's not spam if you ask him specifically, like you did, and he answers. No problem there.

It's spam when he comes in to this thread recommending his own mics.

Do you see the distinction?

 

[Dolemite]

I completely see where you're coming from here, ammeth, but I think some of it comes down to "internal moderation" - that is, we all know who Alan is and what company he owns, etc., so everything he says must be taken in that light. In this case he was kind enough to point out his biases without any coercion.

Sometimes I wish Alan would keep his mouth shut and let recommendations and reviews come in on their own...other times I want to hear things answered about a specific product (simply objective questions about the joe meek products for example) and its awfully handy to have the manufacturer/distributor or whatever right there. The point is, I'm glad he's here, and my SPAM filter is working fine. When I feel that he's out of line I don't have a problem telling him that of course...

I'm NOT going to baby-sit! So please get a new moderator as that I won't do and that's what many people here want. And from what I understand, new moderators are in the works.

I thought the job of moderator was to keep the forum clean (spam free) and on topic? I like you Weston, but frankly, your not up to the job. I'm glad your stepping down.

I couldn't agree more. I can't even remember the last time I saw RE post before today, let alone take any real action as a moderator. Same thing goes for Sonusman. We don't need a babysitter, but we do need someone who can log in every now and then...

This BBS is very large and growing fast. That facilitates the need for active moderation. I respect the hell out of both RE and Sonusman and think they're cool people, but moderators they are not...

 

[ametth]

Randy "the lemming" Yell

Warning!Warning!Spam Police on patrol!!Danger Will Robinson!Spam attack!!

Dude,if you don't like a post don't read the frickin thing.Frankly I find all the spam accussations a LOT more annoying than the post that they are directed at.

Quite Frankly......I agree with you. If we had an active moderator deleting the spam, we would not have a problem. But we dont. Can you imagine if every mic maker posted here telling people to buy their mics? It would be nothing but a big advertising board, thats what I'm trying to stop. But it seems I'm alone in my fight. I think I'm going to start my own mic company.

 

[ametth]

Sometimes I wish Alan would keep his mouth shut and let recommendations and reviews come in on their own...other times I want to hear things answered about a specific product (simply objective questions about the joe meek products for example) and its awfully handy to have the manufacturer/distributor or whatever right there.

Exactly my point. He crosses that line though....all the time.