raw tracks anyone?

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Hey guys im new here, i just recently got into mixing, producing etc. and i was wondering if anybody here had any unpolished tracks that i could practice mixing on. i really wanna practice cleaning up drum tracks with bleed in em and stuff like that.

on this page the song called High Explosives was produced, mixed and master by myself; www.myspace.com/afrostbittenchord

i use adobe audition for mixing adn editing and usually do mastering in sony soundforge.
hit me up guys<3

and btw, i've been using this forum as a resource since long before i signed up here, and i love it. great site!
 
ATR said:
Hey guys im new here, i just recently got into mixing, producing etc. and i was wondering if anybody here had any unpolished tracks that i could practice mixing on. i really wanna practice cleaning up drum tracks with bleed in em and stuff like that.
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I think you're missing the point of mixing. If you're cleaning anything up in mixing, something went horribly wrong in recording.

Don't come at mixing thinking "time to fix all this stuff".
 
There's pre-mixing that you could polish tracks on...cleaning up certain things. I think that's an accepted stage of mixing.

Or could be he's just not on the cutting edge of the terminology...could be he just means he wants to...mix...

I knew a guy a bit like that in the mastering field

All these fields are full of land mines

You must be cautious...a little bit like going to Mos Eisley to find transport
 
Oh-oh...I hope this discussion doesn’t blow up like the "free mastering" thread! :eek: :D

I agree...there are things that get cleaned up during mixing that don't necessarily mean the tracking was done poorly.
These days, with the power of DAW editing, which IMO is *THE* thing that makes DAWs great tools, we are able to "fix" a LOT more than was ever possible during tape days.
Don't think that every tape tracking session was *perfect*. They had to let a lot of little stuff go by, that now CAN be fixed in a DAW....and anal people take FULL advantage (I know).

But to get back to your request...offer some "free editing/mixing" over in the MP3 Clinic...I'm sure you will get some guys to provide you with raw tracks. :) ;)
 
ah, alright, please excuse my ignorance of the correct terminology.
What i think i should have stated is that i would like to gain experience in more than just mixing, but in all aspects of producing. Would that be correct?
thank you for the input, ill go inquire in the mp3 clinic like Miroslav said.
 
Don't worry about the terminology. Just say you want some raw tracks to do some stuff to for practice and experience. Everyone knows what you mean...
 
Welcome, ATR.

There are raw tracks available for download over at my site.

People around here are a little hard on newbies. We all have less than perfect tracks sometimes when recording at home. If they need cleaning up then so be it. Clean the damn things, if it makes you happy, and don't worry about any rules. As you gain experience you will learn to make your tracks better right out of the gate. Spend a lot of time here reading, asking questions, and experimenting. Upgrade your gear as you can afford to. As I said, you will become better at recording quality tracks which require little if any "doctoring up."

I think the point the others were trying to make is that you should aim to get tracks that sound very close to finished without having to change or edit anything. The goal is to make them sound as gorgeous as humanly possible right from the very beginning. If they don't then keep adjusting your technique until your tracks show improvement.

The mics you use, the tuning of the drums, and even the sound of the room you record in, all have everything to do with how the tracks will sound. Keep adjusting mics and everything until the whole kit sounds big and true-to-life. Then you will be making progress with tracking. And mixing will become far easier.

You can turn mics away from one another to minimize bleed and take advantage of the dead zones in the pickup patterns. However, sometimes bleed may actually add life or spaciousness to the drum set.

After tracking, I generally don't worry too much about bleed unless it is nasty enough to ruin the overall sound. Drums will always have some bleed. It's a fact of life. I just EQ the tracks to control any stray harshness or boominess.

In Adobe Audition, you can route all drum tracks to a subgroup (bus) and then process them as a whole with reverb or compression as needed.

Hope this helps.
Good luck.
 
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Thank you Rawdepth!
RawDepth said:
Welcome, ATR.

There are raw tracks available for download over at my site.


The mics you use, the tuning of the drums, and even the sound of the room you record in, all have everything to do with how the tracks will sound. Keep adjusting mics and everything until the whole kit sounds big and true-to-life. Then you will be making progress with tracking. And mixing will become far easier.

You can turn mics away from one another to minimize bleed and take advantage of the dead zones in the pickup patterns. However, sometimes bleed may actually add life or spaciousness to the drum set.

After tracking, I generally don't worry too much about bleed unless it is nasty enough to ruin the overall sound. Drums will always have some bleed. It's a fact of life. I just EQ the tracks to control any stray harshness or boominess.

In Adobe Audition, you can route all drum tracks to a subgroup (bus) and then process them as a whole with reverb or compression as needed.

Hope this helps.
Good luck.
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thank you for your words of advice, they will be used as a reference point:D

what i've done with the drums in the past is eliminate most of the bleed out of the toms and snare, sometimes the kick, and then the overheads i use to pick up cymbals pretty much have the whole kit in em, i just EQ em in an attempt to bring out the cymbals a bit, but that bit of bleed thats in there can be helpful...
 
I use vdrums at my house so I'm not too experienced with real drum tracks, but I wouldn't bother trying to mute or delete the bleed out of drum tracks.... It sounds like a lot of work, and I've never seen a studio do it. Last week I just got some raw drum tracks from a studio my band recorded at a few years ago, I'm amazed how little bleed there is on the drum tracks. The ezdrummer vsti I use has more bleed on the tracks than the studio! You can definitely set it up to minimize bleed.. You can definitely set it up to minimize bleed. I think RawDepth is on the right track, that makes sense and sounds reasonable to me,
 
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