rate the vocals please

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vocals

  • the singer is bad..

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • good..

    Votes: 18 85.7%

  • not that good..

    Votes: 3 14.3%

  • blows..

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    21
  • Poll closed .
SLuiCe - pretty light response from you.. I'll take it as you didn't care for it, which is O.K. really! :D




participant - did you see Lt. Bob's comments about the e.q. and the HARSHNESS? I would have expected you or Tom to have picked up on that from the get go..:D I was thinking harsh too but I thought it was just me.. I can never judge a good vocal level for myself, but I have no problems picking out flaws in other peoples tunes.. thanks Chad! You better have erased the previous version!:mad:





Khompewtur I put a gear list at the bottom of the page.. basically I record on the 788, and burn a cd.. I rip the CD into the computer as a wave and import it into Sonar.. I'll add some Waves effects.. on this one it was just the L1 Ultramximizer.. All that does is raise the overall level of the mix.. If your good with compression you probably wouldn't need it as badly as I do.. Before I use it my overall mixes are usually very low.. I'll send you a p.m. later. thanks!





Doug H - I agree with the 'closed in' comment.. thanks man..






Kramer - thanks Kramer! I know I can do better, but it feels good just doing it..





erichenryus - your one of the harmony guys so I do appreciate the vote of confidence! I wouldn't mind singing for a band if I can make my voice more reliable.. it comes and goes.. it wasn't fully here this day, but it was better than the first version..




The Ghost of FM - I agree.. the vocals do sound too processed.. if someone else posted this I probably would have said the same thing to them.. thanks!






studiovols - I followed along to every time you quoted.. you brought up things I didn't even know I was thinking, but I was! :D --- Like when you said "what we might think of as the backup vocal, comes quickly out in front of the initial lead, like someone sticking their ooogleee haid through " that was on the money, as well as the other comments.. I appreciate it and I'll spend extra time on your future posts.. :D thanks! If I had gone over the song closer I would have spotted what you mentioned..






twist - thanks twist! :D






chrisharris - point taken about effects..thanks :D







mshea - that is an offensive comment to the Oz! :D thanks.. I've been listening to Sabbath since I was in 4th grade..






mixmkr - hi mix! :D





Bulls Hit - thanks man.. I don't do it on purpose.. I never even notice until someone points it out.. I guess I've been listening to Sabbath for a long long time..





joro - thanks joro! :D I made the poll so people would have an option, and not worry about hurting my feelings.. everyone here is too nice!:mad:





Track Rat - thanks Track! Lt. Bob pointed out something about the vocals being harsh and it's exactly what I was thinking.. did you notice it?




boydrj - thanks man.. while all the other kids were listening to the "Grease" soundtrack, I was wearing out my 'paranoid' cassette.:D







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I'll finish replying later.. thanks again!!
 
Khompewtur

it's definitely not free, but here is some info http://www.thedirectxfiles.com/manufacturers/waves_pack1.htm

or

http://www.waves.com/htmls/prods/indi/l1.html

I also have the Rennaisance collection.. http://www.waves.com/htmls/prods/indi/renaissance_collection_tdm.htm

I barely use any of this stuff except the L1 and or the Rcomp and or the Q 10..



EDIT -- it won't add anything that's not already there or anything like that.. like it won't make a bad guitar sound good etc.. It will make it all louder though..
 
Hmmmmmmm...........lotsa chit chat about the singer. Yeah - there's an Ozzy thing there - but I think you just need to lose some of the effects. I hear almost all midrange and I know there's a lot more lurking in there. Harmonies are spot-on and they're not simple harmonies you're using there. I can't find anything - not even a nit to pick on regarding your voice. It's fine and especially for this style -I couldn't sing like that to save my damned soul!

But the TUNE - raucous fun going on there and I detect some Zappa influence - only influence, no rip-offs - that's really cool. Guitar and bass working together super - great sounds. Drums sitting in the perfect anchor position. I likes!!
Milan
Latex Solar Beef

p.s. now I REALLY want to hear your acapella tune.
 
B.SABBATH said:
SLuiCe - pretty light response from you.. I'll take it as you didn't care for it, which is O.K. really! :D
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Sam, you got the light response because you already know what I think, and you only asked about the vocal. But I still told you what I thought of the song and arrangement.

But I'll tell you about the vocal again anyway. Get a condensor mic and stop burying your voice in effects. I like your voice and your style. I've always told you that, and that's what I feel.

Now enough with the self-lacerations around here. It's one thing to point out that you're aware of your own weaknesses, but to dwell on them and not do anything to improve them...

It's probably not your voice. It's what you keep doing to it...
 
lay off my man mixmkr! :mad:

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powderfinger - I hear ya man.. like I was saying earlier, I would probably be pointing these things out to others.. it would be nice to only have to worry about the performance.. I think my vocals would sound worse with a condenser because it would bring out all the imperfections.. sorry you had to witness the first version.. please erase it if you haven't already.. thanks p.f.! read Lt. Bob's reply.





Krakit - appreciate the listen Krakit! :D it's all a strange coincidence..





Lt. Bob - I was thinking the same thing.. loud and harsh!:D sometimes I think people are too cool in here and don't say things they might be thinking.. others may have thought the vocals were harsh but didn't mention it.. I said this a long time ago and I'll say it again.. The reason I post tunes is so when I send an mp3 to a civilian, they won't be irritated by the sound.. they wouldn't know the vocals are harsh, they would just lower the whole thing because it sub-consciously annoys.. :D that's where the clinic comes in.. I should have asked the question, "would this song sub-consciously annoy a non-recordist/civilian??" :D thanks for the e.q. digits..





MC Gitarz - thanks for checking it out.. I made up the harmonies as I went on, as well as most of the lyrics.. not even sure if it was a harmony or octaves, but it was 3 voices.. I dug your acapella tune! I'll post one eventually.. I'm only now starting to grow some nuts!





SLuiCe - eeeeee mail.






everyone, thanks!!






have a safe/cool Labor day! :D
 
about fuckin time

Damn bro, what's with the poll and shit?:D haha, I don't wanna ever see this crap again!:mad: Hey, your one of my fav's around here..and i've been waiting so damn long for you to sing a freakin song man. I heard some "harsh" comments but I disagree, sounds pretty smooth to me but lacking the detail it deserves. Keep singing you mo'fo, I love your voice!:) I did a live gig last night..first in many moons:rolleyes: , but about half way thru it I was thinking..shit I wished I could pull a samicide tune out, these fuckers would go crazy;) :D but I couldn't so they had to settle for Tx flood:D :D . It's a keeper man, loved it and DON"T EVER stop singing! Your really great..

David
 
Wow.. I love these vocals.. manaical yet well performed.. great control and execution..

Great job man!!
 
freshears - hey Dave, the poll was an easy way for people like you to say I suck, and still have us be pals!:D interesting you disagree with the harsh comments.. thanks for mentioning it.. I'm at the crossroads as far as vocals go.. did you record any of that live gig? post it if you did! It's nice to hear people who actually do some music outside of the house.. cool.




Cyrokk - appreciate the lie Cy!



:D



thanks again everyone!
 
hey Dave, the poll was an easy way for people like you to say I suck
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Man stop that shit already:rolleyes: Why would you..oh fuck never mind:D . Hey your vox ROCKS! and i'll fuck anybody's shit up that say's diffrent:cool: You don't need a poll, you just need to sing your ass off like you just did! NOW:D

No man, I didn't record anything but they want us there at least once a month..so maybe I may have something before long.
 
Awesome vocal's Sam. Your track's are alway's inspirational. Make's me want to record something right away. I dig the way the back up vocals sort of build up along the verse's. Also the processed voice sound's right for this tune..........Joe :D
 
I don't think it's a problem so much of putting effects on everything, Sam. But I think the effects would probably work even better over a more detailed vocal done with a more detailed mic. Detail is good. As you're tracking, if you really don't like a detail that a better mic brings out, adjust your performance, etc. That's one of the great things about them. You can hear what the hell is going on.
I don't profess to have all the answers by any means, but I strongly feel those effects would be more interesting and intense with a better representation of your voice to start with. But I'm in the minority here on this apparently. I personally think there is room for improvement in the recording stage. But I know you could keep recording as you are and we'll all continue to enjoy what you do. Very much enjoy it in fact.

I am gonna shut up now. Sorry if I've annoyed you with this, but you asked.
 
SLuiCe said:
I don't think it's a problem so much of putting effects on everything, Sam. But I think the effects would probably work even better over a more detailed vocal done with a more detailed mic. Detail is good. As you're tracking, if you really don't like a detail that a better mic brings out, adjust your performance, etc. That's one of the great things about them. You can hear what the hell is going on.
I don't profess to have all the answers by any means, but I strongly feel those effects would be more interesting and intense with a better representation of your voice to start with. But I'm in the minority here on this apparently. I personally think there is room for improvement in the recording stage. But I know you could keep recording as you are and we'll all continue to enjoy what you do. Very much enjoy it in fact.

I am gonna shut up now. Sorry if I've annoyed you with this, but you asked.
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Good post. What SLuiCe said.

As you're tracking, if you really don't like a detail that a better mic brings out, adjust your performance
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That's top notch info! And so true..
 
Ok, I'm gonna be a rebel here. Although the vocal was good, the performance was bland to my ears. Low energy.

I would have punched up the song a few beats per minute to give it a little more edge.

I would have put a little less compression on the voice through out to liven it up a bit too.

Other than that it sounds like the radio.
 
freshears - look forward to hearing some of that live stuff.. I know most people think making this poll was dumb, but I never said I was the smartest guy, so I do what I do.. :D thanks Dave!




Joe Recorder - thanks a lot man!





SLuiCe - I forgot to mention something about this.. I held the mic in my hands as I did it.. It seems like I can't sing unless I hold the mic.. your right on with your comments as usual, and your always important feedback.. thanks Tom! maybe a condenser is in my future.. The thing that gets me though is I know that some great vocal recordings were done with an SM58.. Maybe I'll try some mic placement and different settings first..




Middleman - I agree 100% man.. the performance was bland.. good point about the compression.. I kept adding more to it with every bounce.. thanks for keeping it real!







I appreciate all the great feedback I got on this tune.. you guys rule!




here's the lyrics since I have nothing left to add to this thread.. thanks again!









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I really need this like somebody needs a hole in the head,

I should have seen it, maybe my eyes were too red,

with all your chattering your screwing my emotion,

draining my body of it's faith, hope and devotion,

surely I look to hard to come up with a reason,

burying my brother much too early in the season,

and all this chattering is screwing my emotions,

makes me a volunteer to witness your implosion..


-chorus-

things will be alright this time again,

unlike your friend,

sitting home alone totally depressed,

a private mess..



do you believe in God, you bet your ass that I do,

if this was all there was I'd commit suicide too,

I wish I had a choice, just ran out of time to burn,

so maybe you will learn,

just ran out of time to burn,

you won't learn..
 
B.SABBATH said:
The thing that gets me though is I know that some great vocal recordings were done with an SM58..
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This is true. Perhaps a better pre-amp would do....
 
Krakit said:
...speaking as someone with an Ian Anderson thing happening himself, I would suggest...
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lol, I sufferred from that for ages (mine was a crude, crude facimily). Not to hijack the thread but I've never stumbled across anyone else who had Ian Andersonitis before.
 
vocals sound cool to me ...i think just ONCE you should post something with no effects vocally at all....come on you can do it..but for the music you do this fits real nicely..the song aside from any vocal polls is killer..

myself i get a (vocally) foo fighters vibe from this...might be the notes tho...course i fucking LOVE the foo fighters so i hear it in ALOT OF STUFF...

:D

that keyboard shit around 3:00 ....man...i neeeEEEEEEeeed a keyboard....





and someone to play it...


excellent..
jamal
 
I didn't read the 50+ posts before this, so maybe we're talking about something else by now.

My opinion on your vocals is that they are very good and you obviously put a lot into them but they don't quite live up to the rest of your music. The short instrumental parts are my favorite parts of this.

I wish I could pinpoint why I like the music better than the vocals. Maybe the vocals don't have the dynamics (not just volume but energy too) and variety that the music does. Maybe it's the variety. You've got so much variety in your music but the vocals sound somewhat constant.

That said - your vocals are very good. You just got some pretty dang awesome music behind them that they gotta live up to.
 
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