Ford Van
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No, I don't. Sorry.
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realestninja
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msn or icq?
malcolm123
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Hello All,
Been gone for a while. I have been recording rap since the early 90s. Every year I learn something different that improves my mixes. Its just a on going process because no two tracks will ever be the same. Even a track that you recorded on Monday may sound different on Tuesday. Especially with Vocals. A rapper can sound fine one day and the next day you can be like what happened to the sound. Until you mix some more I would take this approach. Its a blind one but it may help until you learn what you are listening for.
Mute all Hit Hats, Snare, Samples.
Playback only the vocals (Flat with no EQ) and get all of the levels as close as possible.
Now mute the Vocals.
Now bring in the Low end,, ie Kick Drum, bassline.
Now playback the low end stuff with the Vocals. Make sure there is no EQ and shoot for good leveling.
Now use the EQ and try to level the low end of the vocals with the low end music.
Cut low end EQ where needed. Try not to add because cutting is better.
Now add the other instruments. If they are too crispy, cut high end EQ to where they are close to the Vocals High end EQ.
When you get a balance overall level, boost the high end on the vocals until they get a little shine.
Check all levels again after you have walked away from the mix for a while.
Recheck all levels again.
Make sure you do all of this without having the overal volume too high.
Now turn the volume up. If it is all balanced and nothing stands out too much (this when depend on your monitor environment though)
Boost the high end ov the overall mix on your main out.
Play this everywhere withot attempting any mastering.
Once you think the mix is pretty good then go for mastering.
Keep in mind that you are not look for a glossy final product, just a good sounding balanced mix.
Also during the mixing stage, try to use some comp on the vocals. You want the comp to provide smootheness not volume.
Good Luck
Malcolm
Been gone for a while. I have been recording rap since the early 90s. Every year I learn something different that improves my mixes. Its just a on going process because no two tracks will ever be the same. Even a track that you recorded on Monday may sound different on Tuesday. Especially with Vocals. A rapper can sound fine one day and the next day you can be like what happened to the sound. Until you mix some more I would take this approach. Its a blind one but it may help until you learn what you are listening for.
Mute all Hit Hats, Snare, Samples.
Playback only the vocals (Flat with no EQ) and get all of the levels as close as possible.
Now mute the Vocals.
Now bring in the Low end,, ie Kick Drum, bassline.
Now playback the low end stuff with the Vocals. Make sure there is no EQ and shoot for good leveling.
Now use the EQ and try to level the low end of the vocals with the low end music.
Cut low end EQ where needed. Try not to add because cutting is better.
Now add the other instruments. If they are too crispy, cut high end EQ to where they are close to the Vocals High end EQ.
When you get a balance overall level, boost the high end on the vocals until they get a little shine.
Check all levels again after you have walked away from the mix for a while.
Recheck all levels again.
Make sure you do all of this without having the overal volume too high.
Now turn the volume up. If it is all balanced and nothing stands out too much (this when depend on your monitor environment though)
Boost the high end ov the overall mix on your main out.
Play this everywhere withot attempting any mastering.
Once you think the mix is pretty good then go for mastering.
Keep in mind that you are not look for a glossy final product, just a good sounding balanced mix.
Also during the mixing stage, try to use some comp on the vocals. You want the comp to provide smootheness not volume.
Good Luck
Malcolm
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ryanlikestorock
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It seems to me like you're trying to learn 10 years worth of learning in a week. Be honest with yourself, it's not going to happen. I'd find someone in your area who has been working with audio for 10 years and sit down with them to study your recording/mixing. LISTEN to them and figure out what you don't know yet. Then, start the slow process of learning. I definitely still think of myself as a young, starting engineer and I've been doing this for 10 years (3 years full time). It takes a hell of a lot of time to come up with "professional" results.
Good luck though. This is a great place to learn a lot about a lot.
Good luck though. This is a great place to learn a lot about a lot.
NL5
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ryanlikestorock said:
Bingo.
Hey - can someone get on AIM and teach me to paint like Van Gogh? Matisse maybe? Maybe like that dude on PBS?
Massive Master
www.massivemastering.com
You mean the "Megik Vite" (Magic White) guy or the dude with the 'fro?
NL5
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NL5
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So, ya got AIM????? Can you teach me to paint like Bob? He's no Van Gogh, so it should be easy fer ya.......
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RAMI
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realestninja said:
Well, now that you've got all the technical terms down pat, you can start experimenting.
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tommy mas
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Rip Bob Ross!!!!
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ryanlikestorock
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NL5 said:Bingo.
Hey - can someone get on AIM and teach me to paint like Van Gogh? Matisse maybe? Maybe like that dude on PBS?
We can laugh, but I do appreciate his enthusiasm. Some people wish they knew, but never even try.
NL5
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ryanlikestorock said:We can laugh, but I do appreciate his enthusiasm. Some people wish they knew, but never even try.
I agree. I hope he is starting to understand why he is getting the answers he is. Mastering is the toughest job in recording IMO. It is not something you can teach someone over AIM in an afternoon........
To the OP - I do wish you luck. READ, READ, and READ some more.
NL5
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realestninja said:
Absolutely!
Eminem, however, did not sell a million albums overnight. I am sure you could become a great mastering engineer. It just won't happen in a few hours over AIM. Do some research, read a few books, and listen. Your ear, no matter what level it is now, will get better and better.
Good luck.