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koz
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hey everyone i just got a Roland vs2000 and im having a hard time finding out how to burn on to the c.d does anyone have any pointers on how to do that?any help will be apreciated thanks..
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macguy
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ah, is this the machine bro
http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.php?ProductId=602
i am so envious i won't tell you how or what to do ........naw.....just kidding
i'm struggling with the same problem but on the vs1680
those Japanese engineers still don't know how to write instructions even after all these years
you and i are no doubt trying to follow those steps which is fine except they tend to leave out some very important explanations
could you elaberate at what step (s) are giving you problems
i've got a yamaha AW16 and the steps are clearly written and it's really as easy as counting 1, 2, 3 to burn the projects to cd
http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.php?ProductId=602
i am so envious i won't tell you how or what to do ........naw.....just kidding
i'm struggling with the same problem but on the vs1680
those Japanese engineers still don't know how to write instructions even after all these years
you and i are no doubt trying to follow those steps which is fine except they tend to leave out some very important explanations
could you elaberate at what step (s) are giving you problems
i've got a yamaha AW16 and the steps are clearly written and it's really as easy as counting 1, 2, 3 to burn the projects to cd
R
Richard Monroe
Well-known member
First, let me say that I have no clue about the VS2000 or the 1680, but- I know the VS1824CD like the back of my hand. So- I'll talk you both through it on an 1824 on the chance that the operating systems are similar. My apologies if it doesn't work.
First, you have to have 2 channels recorded in 16bits/44.1kHz. If you recorded in 24 bits *you can't do it*. If you just have 2 tracks, fine, otherwise, you have to create a stereo "master" track. To do this, go to "mastering room" with CDrec mode "on"- (this will save you time later) Record/play set for "rec", Switch "on". The master tracks will be the highest numbered V-tracks you have. In my case, that's 17-16 and 18-16. Make sure all the tracks you want to record are enabled (green). The mastering tracks should light up red. Push record and then play, and set master levels however you want them. When you are done, hit "song"/"optomize". Note- once you do this, "undo" *will not work*. All previous versions are gone. Then save it! On my machine, that's shift/zero. Optomizing before you save deletes all of the various versions you went through in editing, and saves tons of hard drive space. If you want to hear the mastering tracks, set the rec/play button in the mastering room to "play" with switch "on". In this mode, you should see the master tracks on the screen, and the only fader that should work is the master fader.
Then, go to "mastering room" and hit CD write "CDWt" (CD write). Insert a *Japanese* CD-R, such as Taiyo Uden/Microboards. Rolands are notorious for hating non-Japanese CD-R's, and half the time they won't record on Maxell's, Sony's, or anything else. It should bring up the CD-write screen. Hit "select track". Use the arrows and the jog wheel and go to the master tracks (in my case, I go to 17-16 and hit sel L and 17-18 and sel R). Then hit "back" which will take you back to the CD write screen, and now shows the selected tracks. If you are just burning a stereo recording on tracks 1 and 2, , you would select 1-1 and 2-1, and no "master" tracks would be necessary. Select "track at once", whatever speed you want (2X, 4X, etc.). Set finalize "off" if you intend to record other songs on the same CD, or "on" if you want to be able to play the thing on a regular CD player. You can play it on the Roland even if it's not finalized. If you want to finalize it later, there is a "finalize only" option.
Then hit "execute" and it will start asking you if you understand all the legal hooey about copyright. Tell it what it wants to hear-yes,yes,yes, etc.
It will then say "converting"- this is already done and will take 2 seconds if you did the master tracks in CDrec mode as suggested above. Otherwise, it will now make a redbook compliant copy in real time, however long the song is. Then it will say "writing" and show you what percent is done. When it is done writing, it will say "finalizing", which will take about one minute, and then hopefully, it spits out a finished CD.
Hope this helps you with your machines, which are different than mine, but I'm betting that VS-BS doesn't change that much over time. Let me know if it works. If not, go to VSPlanet.com, and somebody with the exact same machine will talk you through it. Good luck-Richie
First, you have to have 2 channels recorded in 16bits/44.1kHz. If you recorded in 24 bits *you can't do it*. If you just have 2 tracks, fine, otherwise, you have to create a stereo "master" track. To do this, go to "mastering room" with CDrec mode "on"- (this will save you time later) Record/play set for "rec", Switch "on". The master tracks will be the highest numbered V-tracks you have. In my case, that's 17-16 and 18-16. Make sure all the tracks you want to record are enabled (green). The mastering tracks should light up red. Push record and then play, and set master levels however you want them. When you are done, hit "song"/"optomize". Note- once you do this, "undo" *will not work*. All previous versions are gone. Then save it! On my machine, that's shift/zero. Optomizing before you save deletes all of the various versions you went through in editing, and saves tons of hard drive space. If you want to hear the mastering tracks, set the rec/play button in the mastering room to "play" with switch "on". In this mode, you should see the master tracks on the screen, and the only fader that should work is the master fader.
Then, go to "mastering room" and hit CD write "CDWt" (CD write). Insert a *Japanese* CD-R, such as Taiyo Uden/Microboards. Rolands are notorious for hating non-Japanese CD-R's, and half the time they won't record on Maxell's, Sony's, or anything else. It should bring up the CD-write screen. Hit "select track". Use the arrows and the jog wheel and go to the master tracks (in my case, I go to 17-16 and hit sel L and 17-18 and sel R). Then hit "back" which will take you back to the CD write screen, and now shows the selected tracks. If you are just burning a stereo recording on tracks 1 and 2, , you would select 1-1 and 2-1, and no "master" tracks would be necessary. Select "track at once", whatever speed you want (2X, 4X, etc.). Set finalize "off" if you intend to record other songs on the same CD, or "on" if you want to be able to play the thing on a regular CD player. You can play it on the Roland even if it's not finalized. If you want to finalize it later, there is a "finalize only" option.
Then hit "execute" and it will start asking you if you understand all the legal hooey about copyright. Tell it what it wants to hear-yes,yes,yes, etc.
It will then say "converting"- this is already done and will take 2 seconds if you did the master tracks in CDrec mode as suggested above. Otherwise, it will now make a redbook compliant copy in real time, however long the song is. Then it will say "writing" and show you what percent is done. When it is done writing, it will say "finalizing", which will take about one minute, and then hopefully, it spits out a finished CD.
Hope this helps you with your machines, which are different than mine, but I'm betting that VS-BS doesn't change that much over time. Let me know if it works. If not, go to VSPlanet.com, and somebody with the exact same machine will talk you through it. Good luck-Richie
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macguy
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Richard Monroe,
Just wanted to tell you how greatful I am for your replay with detailed information.
I think Roland is Roland and the architecture for recording would be the same just different buttons to push.
I have printed out your reply and will study it carefully and work my thru this so as to get it into my thick clunky brain.
For sure i'll be back ( who said that ? ) and let you know or even a bit sooner to ask for help.
Thanks.
mac guy
Just wanted to tell you how greatful I am for your replay with detailed information.
I think Roland is Roland and the architecture for recording would be the same just different buttons to push.
I have printed out your reply and will study it carefully and work my thru this so as to get it into my thick clunky brain.
For sure i'll be back ( who said that ? ) and let you know or even a bit sooner to ask for help.
Thanks.
mac guy
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Richard Monroe
Well-known member
So- did it work? Inquiring minds want to know-Richie
M
macguy
New member
So- did it work? Inquiring minds want to know-Richie
Sorry about not getting back here to let you know that I have had some ( better then before ) success following your instructions.
I was able to burn several "test" CD's and I am getting better at "dialing" the correct set of tracks to burn.
My burns prior to getting your help were sometimes stereo but sometimes just mono, right track only.
Another question if you have some time: How do i convert my projects that were done in 24 rather then 16 bits since 16 bits is required for CD burns that will play in home/car CD players.
R
Richard Monroe
Well-known member
Answer- you don't/can't, at least on my machine. Check the manual for a function called "dithering". Your later machines may or may not allow you to convert 24bit/48kHz to 16bit/44.1kHz. Another alternative is to export the tracks by USB (if you have that) as WAV. files and dither them down in a real computer using whatever software you have. If you don't have a USB port, here's a software program that can convert Roland proprietary backup discs to WAV.:
http://www.thegoodlibrary.com/VSWaveExport.html
Good luck. The simplest way if something is going to end up on a CD, is to record at 16bit/44.1kHz to begin with.-Richie
http://www.thegoodlibrary.com/VSWaveExport.html
Good luck. The simplest way if something is going to end up on a CD, is to record at 16bit/44.1kHz to begin with.-Richie
M
macguy
New member
Answer- you don't/can't, at least on my machine. Check the manual for a function called "dithering". Your later machines may or may not allow you to convert 24bit/48kHz to 16bit/44.1kHz. Another alternative is to export the tracks by USB (if you have that) as WAV. files and dither them down in a real computer using whatever software you have. If you don't have a USB port, here's a software program that can convert Roland proprietary backup discs to WAV.:
http://www.thegoodlibrary.com/VSWaveExport.html
Good luck. The simplest way if something is going to end up on a CD, is to record at 16bit/44.1kHz to begin with.-Richie
Richard,
Thanks for sticking with me and my problem.
Right at this time I have quikly looked thru the 4 1680's manuals and can't seem to quickly locate "dithering".
My 1680 does not have USB connectivity so I may just have to do it the crude old fashioned way of recording at DigitalPerformer 7 from playback of the VS and burning out of DP7.
My current projects are being done @ 16bit/44 but I am trying to recover the projects from years ago that were done @ 24/48.
My attention these days are somewhat split in trying get a handle on Sibelius 6.
walter the macguy