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I can't play.... :( I am in school until Monday, and I can't get any gear...
So if someone else wants the bass, go for it...
 
metalhead28 said:
Okay, here's about 50 seconds or so of drums that I did last night.

It's not tweaked yet, but you get the idea. It's also a fast bounce from DFHS so it's not too realistic sounding, but I figure you guys could do some jamming to it.


http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/file.php?fid=5413
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Hey man....can I get the midi for this, so I can make some sections longer? I was playing to it, but am not fast enough to make changes very quickly. I need some longer spaces.

Thanks man.
 
Sure, I'll bring in the MIDI and the DFHS file for you tomorrow.

I have to post all of this stuff from work, that's why I never do anything from the house....horrible connection.
 
metalhead28 said:
Sure, I'll bring in the MIDI and the DFHS file for you tomorrow.

I have to post all of this stuff from work, that's why I never do anything from the house....horrible connection.
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Cool man. Which drumset did you use? Or was it a custom one?
 
Dogman said:
Cool man. Which drumset did you use? Or was it a custom one?
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It's a custom kit. I'll give you the DFHS preset too if you want it.
 
metalhead28 said:
It's a custom kit. I'll give you the DFHS preset too if you want it.
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Yeah, that would be great. I played some riffs today, but my changes were rough, and sounded like pick slides. I need to make the patterns longer, to just noodle with. I could chop it up and loop it, but that would be too easy.... :D

I did just order the DFH expansion pack for Ez-Drummer. Should be here early next week. I've been using Ez-drummer to make click tracks, as they are already mixed, so thought the DFH pack might be cool. I'm terrible at figuring out what a real drummer should play. Last drums I did in DFHS, I thnk I had a 4 handed, 3 footed drummer. He kicked ass, but sucked in teh mix department.... :eek:
 
hey metalhead. Your drums always sound really realistic. I was wondering what DKFHS offers to humanize the drums besides the usual velocity, timing, differnt sample hit.
 
ericlingus said:
hey metalhead. Your drums always sound really realistic. I was wondering what DKFHS offers to humanize the drums besides the usual velocity, timing, differnt sample hit.
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Not to take over from Metaldude, but the most interesting thing to me is, the mixing. You can pick a bunch of mics, then try and blend them for getting certain sounds. They have many options, but I noticed that they have OH, and Ambiencs, plus a bunch of close micing options, with or without bleed. If knew how a real drummer played, I could get some killer stuff out of this program. (My trouble is programming what a drummer would really play. )

The kits also have way different sounds...that is interesting, to me. I wanted to do a Beatles cover, with some really flabby sounding drums. I found a way to do that. Pretty cool.

Not to take this thread over, but if you want some versatility with programmed drums, here's something I did.
Come Together

I have no real clue how to mix drums, but wanted something that didn't sound like modern, Hard Rock drums. (I love doing whacky covers....)

This only took about an hour.
 
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thanks. Right now i'm using Beatcraft. It's a software drum machine. I have some good samples i've downloaded which make a huge difference. There isn't any mic bleed options or anything but I can change the velocities, I have multiple hit of a sample that I can use so every hit doesnt sound the same. I can vary the timing as well. I asked about DKFHS because I wanted to know what else there is to humanize drums. Besides the mic placement tweaks, I can do all that with my program, which i'm glad cause I don't have the money to buy DKFHS. I've been really getting into drum programming lately so that's why i'm asking these questions.
 
not to highjack this thread but could you take a listen to this drum sequence I made for a song i'm working on. This is without really any post processing.

http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/file.php?fid=5389


how does it sound? Is it convincing? Does it sound good? How are the samples? I have other samples that probably sound more real because they are actually sampled from a real drumkit but I really liked the ones used here.
 
ericlingus said:
thanks. Right now i'm using Beatcraft. It's a software drum machine. I have some good samples i've downloaded which make a huge difference. There isn't any mic bleed options or anything but I can change the velocities, I have multiple hit of a sample that I can use so every hit doesnt sound the same. I can vary the timing as well. I asked about DKFHS because I wanted to know what else there is to humanize drums. Besides the mic placement tweaks, I can do all that with my program, which i'm glad cause I don't have the money to buy DKFHS. I've been really getting into drum programming lately so that's why i'm asking these questions.
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If you don't have the money, don't worry. While the program is cool, if you can make due with what you have, concentratge on the rest of the music. Most people can understand not having a real drummer, and just having decent drum loops, or a drum machine can work well. :cool:
 
ericlingus said:
not to highjack this thread but could you take a listen to this drum sequence I made for a song i'm working on. This is without really any post processing.

http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/file.php?fid=5389


how does it sound? Is it convincing? Does it sound good? How are the samples? I have other samples that probably sound more real because they are actually sampled from a real drumkit but I really liked the ones used here.
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I don't think that sounds bad at all. In a mix, it would probably gel pretty good.
 
thanks. I'm really trying to get the best out of what I have. The drum software I have is Beatcraft and it cost like 40 bucks. For the price I think it is amazing and I can download samples off the web for free. There are plenty of good ones around without having to buy sample libraries.
 
ericlingus said:
hey metalhead. Your drums always sound really realistic. I was wondering what DKFHS offers to humanize the drums besides the usual velocity, timing, differnt sample hit.
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Well, the things you mentioned are really about the only things possible, other than just the quality of the samples. DFHS does have a randomize function where it will select random samples for you in a certain velocity range. I always vary my velocities manually to get what I want though. The track I just posted is not optimized at all, there's alot of stuff that needs the velocity and timing tweaked. I also just froze the MIDI track so that's not even bounced through the software to get the mic bleed or anything. DFHS is a pretty amazing program, can't say enough good about it.

As far as getting the most out of your software, what is it you don't like about the sample you posted? It sounds pretty good to me, and it's how it sounds in the mix that matters. That seems like it would sound fine. You're not doing any crazy fills or anything either and that's when stuff usually starts to sound fake.
 
metalhead28 said:
Dogman, here is the MIDI file, the DFH preset file, and also the SONAR drum map (since I know you use Sonar) that I use with this kit.
Have fun. :p

www.themetallab.com/files/purge.zip
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Cool, thanks man. I will hopefully make a bit longer drum sample today, and maybe get a few riffs recorded... :D
 
thanks for the replies. Your right about the samples. They matter a lot. I'm just trying to get my drums to sound as good as possible. I don't want to hear, yeah that was a good recorded song, i'd like to hear it with real drums though. I'd like people to think they are real drums. Many metal bands are using lots of triggers nowadays and I like the drum sounds so using a drum machine isn't very far off. Metalhead, what metal bands do you know of that use programmed drums. Did Samael use them for Ceremony of Opposites or just from Passages on?
 
ericlingus said:
thanks for the replies. Your right about the samples. They matter a lot. I'm just trying to get my drums to sound as good as possible. I don't want to hear, yeah that was a good recorded song, i'd like to hear it with real drums though. I'd like people to think they are real drums. Many metal bands are using lots of triggers nowadays and I like the drum sounds so using a drum machine isn't very far off. Metalhead, what metal bands do you know of that use programmed drums. Did Samael use them for Ceremony of Opposites or just from Passages on?
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I don't know, I don't follow Samael. There are probably more than you think nowadays, because in the metal context you really can't tell sometimes, everything is so triggered and "machine-like". Anyway, Necrophagist used a drum machine on their first album. Vintersorg used programmed drums....The latest Meshuggah album was done with DFHS specifically! :D
My album will be DFHS...hahaha. :p
 
Scorching drummy death!!! I'm busy as absolute shit this weekend, but I will do my damndest to try and get something laid down. Carpal tunnel, here we come!!! AAAAARRRGGGHGHHHH!!!!!!!!!
 
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