Pulled an all nighter on this one...now musically stuck

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I have been trying to explore different style of music for awhile, and now i am trying to combine and develope my own style, but still in blur... Anyways, I got some tracks laid down and I was hoping if I could get some insite from you musicians about how this song is built, and where it's going...cuz I am stuck after writing/tracking it for nrealy 20 hrs straight.

Any negative comments are welcomed :) Thanks

"Undecided"
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Thanks,

AL
 
Sounds like 3-4 song in one :). I'm not sure how you actualy set out to develop your own style. You get idea and recorded it play with it I guess but usualy not for the reason to develop new style.
Interesting. I'm not saying you can't do that I just think it's different approach which is cool.

One pitfall I can see though is that you will probably tend to double guess your self all the time, "Didn't I hear this already", or "Does that like so and so?"

Musicaly it's very interesting and there alot of things going on.
And very well done I might add. Hard to comment on that aspect quickly. I'll have to listen some more.

cheers
 
Fed:

I am probably the fastest replier here, lol. Thanks for listening. I truely agree with you that this 1 song sounds like 3-4 songs even though it's only based one 2 chord progressions. I guess I have been influenced by Phish and P Floyd a bit, but not as organized as they are...I was hoping the guitar line "A, AAA, AAA" thing would connect the song..
My approach to writing has totally changed ever since I turned my PC into a daw. You nailed it, I do write alone as I record, and I do get lost like right now. So, how do you go about writting your songs? How do most of the people write? Rhythm guitar/vocal, then add bridge and fills??

Thanks,

AL
 
rather sweet

listened in my headphones, lovely sound. the drums sound ace. It sounds like it would accompany a good action movie soundtrack, expecially towards the end. I hope that doesn`t offend you and your style. May favourite part was at about 2.57 ish when the organ comes in, great.
 
I'm no expert in writing. I didn't write that much stuff my self but intimatly know a person who did (read wife).

For me it's combination of inspiration and ability to capture it.
I think I get inpired alot but lack discipline and somtimes ability to capture it. Say I here a cool line in my head but by the time I get to my guitar and figure out that line it's probably lost or mangled.
My wife on the other hand because of her training hears stuff and knows what the intervals are right the way. So it's much easier for her to capture.

It's all very subjective and philosofical I guess but you just sit down and doodle around on whatever your instrument is. If you get too technical it probably will not happen. I don;t know there are probably volumes written on this creativaty/inspiration thing but does anyone gets it? I don't think so.

Anyway like I sad it's too philosofical and probably doesn't help you. In practical I would get away from song for a while and then come back to it. See if you can even remember the theam/melody part of it. If it doesn't move you after a day. Leave it and move on ;) There will be other moments.

I know it's no help but you ask a hard question. :)
 
There you go, lets ask Erland how he writes? He's got some great stuff. How are you dude? Common share the secret, shed the light on this inspiration thing :D
 
I actually enjoyed this piece a lot.

THe second and third parts were my favorites. I think you can spin them off into really good songs.

Now, all you need to do is add vocals.

By the way, you can sell this piece to a college dance team for competition since it changes quite a few times and has some of the elements that they are looking for.

Funk on!
 
I like the ideas you've come up with here. They actually connect fairly well to my ears. It does sound like soundtrack music to me because there's no real coherent melody or theme to it. That's ok, I like sonic tapestry or soundtrack music a lot so this is right up my alley. I did think it was a bit unfinished (as you said) especially the ending. It just kind of stops without any conclusion. I'd like to hear some sort of melody or unifying theme of some sort. Nice to listen to though. Kinda James Bondish.
As for writing, there's so many different ways. Sometimes I'll get a lyric in my head, sometimes a lick that I like and sometimes I'll just decide I want to write a song about.......... They all work and I don't think writing lends itself to being defined into a set of procedures any more than painting a painting would. Keep it up, I want to hear more. :)
 
As far as free ideas go, your on the right track. I don't do/aproach tunes like you and that is my fault and loss. You've got a solid knack for hacking away at the melody and rhythm. Keep chipping. The recording sounds decent enough but the early drum stops were a tad loose and contrived.


Let it be know that the groove was good.

Theron.
 
Wow, I am very surprised that you big boys listened and nailed the pictures in my head when working on this song.

Erland: glad you liked the drums. I am still new working with Fruity Loops. I actually had a funny picture of people running away when the organ fades, and a monster/bad guy comesin as guitar starts.

Fed: I totally understand how ideas just come and go. I have only written/recorded maybe 1% of the ideas that pops up in my head. I once jumped off from my bed, grabbed my guitar, and wrote a solo, and it ended up to be a song in a pretty big show :) Is that just me, who gets crazy imaginations right before falling asleep? And yes, Erland is a talented writter!

CyanJaguar: yeah, once my friend comes back from Kings Island (theme park)tonight, I will have him working on the vocals. Not quite sure what you mean by elements that dance competition needs. Wouldn't they need a more danceable(?) beat? Anyways, I like that idea alot

Lt. Bob: Yeah, the song really did just stop at the end. I actually fell asleep while trying to track the next keyboard part. I will definitely keep workin on it more. I have always wanted to make soundtracks for movies, but, with no gears/movies available, I guess I try to create images from music instead.

theron: Can't agree more with you that the drum stopped unaturally there. In fact, I think I still gotta figure out better ways to connect all parts together.

Thanks for the listening.

AL
 
cool tune..

I have heard that first blues riff many many times, but you made it sound different... I thought the guitar sounded out of tune at 45 sec though....maybe its the intonation.. I like where the tune is going though.. The drums start off sounding really good..

On its way to being a really good tune.... the ending dies but I'm sure someone mentioned that..

I like where its going... :cool:


later

B
 
listened again...

I like it. That part with the piano that starts at 1:00 I can just here some telephone voices going. It's very dramatic. I like how more layers come in at 1:54 but then it's over too soon (aah maybe not) also I don't know about distortion that came in at 2:14. Oh well! it's all subjective anyway :rolleyes:.
There some great stuff going.
It might be just a copple of cords but you managed to keep it interesting with the arrangement, I dig that.
I listened to it some more and thought I'd give you more feedback.

All MHO.
 
I think there are some nice ideas...but the progressions are not overly original...almost in the "Secret Agent Man" genre, with techno thrown in for good measure. I'd drink some more coffee, and keep on pluggin!!...seriously...your off to a good start, and the tune just needs some finishing up, vocals, whatever, to call it a wraps...
 
B.SABBATH: I didn't know the intro guitar riff was a popular blues thing. The only person I heard it from was David Gilmour(duh, a blues player). I guess I need to study blues more. And yes, the guitar was out of tune, need to adjust the neck again.

Fed: Thank you for listening again! I can definitely use some telephone voice or even walkie talkie(?) conversation there. Any idea how to create that effect? boost low mids? And I am right now adding more to that orchstra part, I, too, think it ended too early.

mixmkr: You mean the chord progressions or the arrangement of the whole song isn't original? I can see the chords being ordinary, but the arrangement is so far pretty unorganized to me..

Thanks for listening, guys

AL
 
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