problem with tracking

[mr. torture]

When double tracking guitars I use two closed mics and my Jackson on one track and two diffrent mics, still closed mic'd, and my Les Paul on the other. when I play back the tracks together they sound out of tune and chorus-like. I re-recorded the second track using the Jackson and then it seems fine. Both guitars have been set-up for correct intonation and are in tune. Also, seperately they sound fine. Why can't I get these guitars to mesh? Thanks for your help.

 

[ez_willis]

Sounds like the mic's on the Paul track are out of phase.

 

[xstatic]

Actually, it sounds like one guitar or the other may have intonation issues to me. 2 mics phasing does not usually result in a chorused and out of tune sounds. I have seen this happen many many times, and almost every time it is intonation. Sometimes different guitar/pick up combinations have a different feeling attack to them as well which can make things seem like there are timing issues. If the mics have not moved when switching guitars, it seems more likely that the pick up differences don't mesh, or the guitars are intonated differently.

 

[mr. torture]

Thank you for the replies. Both guitars are setup by a tech at the same time, intonated and tuned. Before tracking I always double check both guitars to make sure nothing has changed. I fear it may be the pickups do not mesh as stated by xstatic. Which makes me wonder how others get away with it?
The Jackson has Duncans and the Paul has stock gibson pickups. I am sure others have tried this combination in the past. I have researched here quite a bit and learned that the best results for heavy rock guitar tracks are achieved by using different guitar/amp, mic placement combinations. Seems in my case, It has backfired. Like i said earlier, each guitar on it's own sounds fine. Perfect with the Bass and other instruments.
Perhaps if both guitars had the same pickups, this would not be an issue. But I am afraid, that would be defeating the purpose.
Thanks again guy's.

 

[ez_willis]

Thank you for the replies. Both guitars are setup by a tech at the same time, intonated and tuned. Before tracking I always double check both guitars to make sure nothing has changed. I fear it may be the pickups do not mesh as stated by xstatic. Which makes me wonder how others get away with it?
The Jackson has Duncans and the Paul has stock gibson pickups. I am sure others have tried this combination in the past. I have researched here quite a bit and learned that the best results for heavy rock guitar tracks are achieved by using different guitar/amp, mic placement combinations. Seems in my case, It has backfired. Like i said earlier, each guitar on it's own sounds fine. Perfect with the Bass and other instruments.
Perhaps if both guitars had the same pickups, this would not be an issue. But I am afraid, that would be defeating the purpose.
Thanks again guy's.

Wait, hang on.

Test your theory. Setup an amp with one mic on it. Record a track with one guitar then record a second track with the other guitar. Don't move the mic or the amp and don't change any eq or anything else.