Problem With The Red Light

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When I rec/mix using an ADAT and an 8-channel console,I take strong sound.
When I tried to mix in a PC using Nuendo(Cubase),I had problems with the volumes.The red lights of "picking" is very
sensitive,so when it is on, I have to reduce the volume of that channel.This BAD thing don't let me do strong and loud mixes.
With the analog combination (previous) I hadn't any problem like this.
Please tell me what to do with the PC,to make STRONG mixes without the problem of the "RED bad bad light" stopping me.
A friend told me that the analog equipment strarts from 0 db,instead of digi which ends there (everything above 0 is noise).

I Need an advice what to do...
 
Turn up your monitor amp ;)

Digital does end at 0db and analog has a bit of headroom above 0db but for the most part 0db is considered the sweet spot. If you need to push the digital signal a little more than you can use compression and limiting to raise the perceived loudness.
 
Your friend is sort of right. All sound levels can be measure in "decibels", which start at 0db. However, the meters on your audio equipment are normalized to 0db, which represents the highest signal that the system can supposedly handle.

In the digital realm it's a no brainer. There is no value over 1111111111111111 (unsigned, don't jump on me computer geeks), so that value is 0db. Anything "over" 0db in the digital realm is 0db, because there is nothing over 0db :) A digital meter always stops at 0db, so it looks like -6db -3db 0db.

In the analog realm it's a bit trickier. 0db represents some maximum voltage that the equipment works with...but we all know that no two analog systems are the same, so some will have a little bit of room over the 0db mark on the meter, some may have less. You can tell an analog meter very easily because it will look like -6db -3db 0db +1db +2db (in other words, there are values ABOVE 0).

Think about your old tape recorder...when you set it up to record, you'd set the record level such that the meter would bounce in the red every so often. It wasn't a big deal because tape by nature offers a little bit of "extra" peak room without sounding bad, and you want your level as hot as possible because the noise floor is so high with tape. (taken to the extreme, this is referred to as "tape compression") In a digital recorder, on the other hand, you want to set your level such that the meters NEVER hits the red line....all samples that are over 0db are truncated down to 0db, and what you end up with is very nasty sounding distortion.

As far as where you need to track when using a digital system, it does kind of depend on the quality of that system (how good the converters are and where the noise floor is), but in most cases it's like this: in a 16bit system, you'll want to track such that you're peaking at around -3db or higher. In a 24bit system, you'll want to track such that you're peaking around -12 to -6db.

The reason you have so much more "room" on a 24bit system is that a) the noise floor in a 24bit system is often lower and b) you've got a lot more resolution to work with.

While 'a' above is pretty easy to understand, 'b' is kind of tricky. The decible scale is logarithmic, and without going into too much detail, you lose about one significant bit of resolution for every 6db of level reduction. So, in a 16bit system, there are 2^16 - 2^15 = 32768 values representing the range -6db to 0db. In a 24bit system, there are 2^24 - 2^23 = 8,388,608 values representing the range -6db to 0db! Therefore, you can *theoretically* track 48db lower in a 24bit system and still have the same resolution as a 16bit system. I say theoretically, because you do always have to contend with that noise floor...and tracking at -48db would require a lot of volume adjustment at mix time which won't be pretty :)

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BTW, in all digital systems you should try to track as hot as possible...I say -12 to -6db in a 24bit system because it's better to play it safe than to clip. If you're recording yourself, it's hard to watch and adjust the meters. If you were recording someone else you could track hotter.

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