Presonus Studio 1824c Audio Interface - Independent Output Channel Count

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sumitsimlai

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Presonus Studio 1824c as default provides for 4 independent output channels while Channels 1 & 2 are shared with Main Out (Heaven knows why) and Channels 3 & 4 are shared with Headphones out, something on those lines. However I need at least straight 8 independent output channels to go out from the audio interface 1 to 1 to an analogue mixer. I do not need Main Outs or Headphone Outs so it is important to know whether bypassing the internal DSP can help me achieve all channels as independent, and if so, how many?
 
You might want to ask in the digital recording forum since your question is specific to your digital audio interface, DSP settings/configuration etc. and this is the analog equipment forum. If I was familiar with your interface I might be able to help more readily, but I’m not unfortunately.
 
You might want to ask in the digital recording forum since your question is specific to your digital audio interface, DSP settings/configuration etc. and this is the analog equipment forum. If I was familiar with your interface I might be able to help more readily, but I’m not unfortunately.
Oh I’m sorry I overlooked that bit. Will do as advised. Thanks a lot though.
 
So are you basically wanting to connect 8 audio streams from your DAW project to an analog mixer for analog summing or something like that?

I read through the manual and I think you just need to realign your thinking a little. Yes the headphone 1 and main L/R outputs parallel line outputs 1 & 2, and the headphone 2 output parallels line outputs 3 & 4, but that doesn’t mean you have to reconfigure anything necessarily. It just means whatever streams or stems you assign to 1824c outputs 1 & 2, those are the only things you’re going to hear in the main outputs 1 & 2 and headphone 1…same goes for anything you assign to outputs 3 & 4 and headphone 2. But so what? Don’t think of it as main L/R and headphones 1 & 2 are stuck to my output streams because if you’re connecting the 8 outputs to an analog mixer, you’re going to use the analog mixer for monitoring, cue feeds, etc. during your summing operation if that’s what you are doing. I wouldn’t be using the main outputs or headphone outputs of the 1824c if I was using it as a stem dump box…just assign whatever in the DAW to whatever of the 8 output channels, hook up the snake, and use the analog console as your mix and monitor station. You’ll have stuff that can pass from the main outs and the headphone outs on the 1824c, but you don’t care because when using the 1824c in the above type of application you’re not using those outputs of the 1824c anyway.

My 2 pence.
 
You can’t imagine how much of life you’ve breathed into me. Problem solved. Thanks a lot.
Sumit
 
It just for curiosity’s sake, I don’t see why only two channels are sent to Main Out. When then are they calling it Main Out?
 
Sweetbeats nailed it. If you're taking 8 analog outputs to some other device, chances are you'll be able to use that device for your monitoring.

In the ideal world you'd have 8 analog line level outputs, plus discrete 1+2 main output and no mirroring,
or configurable (by software) mirroring.
That'd be 10 channels though. If I had to bet I'd say the ad/da conversation comes in 8 channel chips so it comes down to cost cutting/compromise?
 
Yes. 100%. Can’t verify because, though I have some Presonus gear and really like it, Presonus is one of the worst as far as making available any technical documentation.

@sumitsimlai to your question, here again you can realign your thinking…it’s not why are only two channels sent to the main out…they assume you will configure your computer-based DAW to sum your mix to to audio streams 1 & 2, so all your DAW channels will be summed to those channels, and those are present on outputs 1 & 2, but also the main L/R outputs which have the master level control. You have, limited by the circuit architecture, 8 total output streams. You choose what goes on them. Presonus gave you additional functionality you can use if you put your main sum on outputs 1 & 2, and a stereo studio feed on 3 & 4.
 
I agree to what both of you say and understand mostly. I do not need 10 channels. I need 8. But why would I not be able to use the Main Outs as a stereo mix of 8 channels, is something I still don’t get. What’s not clear to me is why at all Channels 1 and 2 are hardwired to Main Outs so much so that they can’t be separated? For instance, someone who is doing part ITB DAW processing, would want to send Channels 1-8 to a mixer for say external dynamics processing, while he would also like to combine 8 channels and send a stereo mix out from from Main Outs to a recording device,, he can’t do that, from what I understand, even after enabling internal DSP Mixer Bypass in Universal Control. Why this serious limitation? I have a Behringer UMC 1820 and they have no such limitations. I think even EVO16 do not impose such limitations. I went by brand name and suggestions from a couple of people, one being the retailer who is a musician himself.
 
You bought what you bought, it has the features it has, and the manufacturer doesn’t hide those features. The 1824c has 8 analog output channels. We can spend all day questioning why it only has 8, but the reality is it has 8 because that’s the way it was designed. Not everything has everything everyone needs. Essentially it looks like the design lends itself to having two stereo feeds, like a control room output and a studio output, with dedicated level controls and mute functionality, which is pretty cool, and then there are 4 additional analog outputs for whatever you want to do with them. It’s a nice design compared to some other boxes that fall short of those control room features. Additionally it’s flexible enough you can use all 8 of the outputs as discrete outputs and feed those however you want using your ITB routing. So that’s what you have. You say you do not need 10 channels, you only need 8, but then in the next sentence you ask how you can have 8 discrete feeds plus a separate stereo mix output. Well, then you need 10 channels, not 8. And the 1824c is not the right box for you if you need 10 D/A output channels. And there’s no mystery it only has 8 analog outputs. You’re discovering what you need. And nobody else can read your mind or the future as to what you need now or will need. I have a Digimax FS and I love it. It’s older, but it’s been a great piece of kit for me from Presonus, so I might have recommended the 1824c as well based on my experience with a legacy product. I probably would have also asked you how many input and output channels you need. At the time you bought it you might not have known the answers to those questions and so it might not have been helpful to ask. But nobody else is responsible to know what you need now or in the future, and your understanding of your needs is changing and that happens. If you have other boxes that can meet your present needs can you just use one of them instead of the 1824c?
 
I was looking at the Presonus forum, and apparently in Universal Control, Setup, you can toggle to BYPASS Mixer, which should then give 8 outputs fed directly from the 8 inputs as a straight pass through. Is this what you are looking for? I don't know that it would give you 8 discrete channels of output from a DAW though.

From some of the comments, it's something you need to do each time you fire up the Presonus, otherwise it defaults to the mixer setting.
 
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