Preamp before reverbs, effects or after??

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I was wondering what is standard for micing. Should I put the mic before reverbs, effects, pitch correctors....? or after? does it depend on the situation? any help would be appriciated.
 
the pre is the first thing your mic should see.........i can rhyme, don't you wanna be like me?
 
audiophilez said:
Should I put the mic before reverbs, effects, pitch correctors....? or after?

How the hell are you going to put it after? ? :confused: :confused:

If you can manage that somehow, then you're a freakin' genius.

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audiophilez said:
I was wondering what is standard for micing. Should I put the mic before reverbs, effects, pitch correctors....? or after? does it depend on the situation? any help would be appriciated.
Think before you talk grasshopper. When recording, the only thing to put the mic before is your lips. Then and only then will you hear the truth.

When you can snatch the words from your mouth and record them, you will be ready to mix and master your technique.

In other words don't add all the garbage until after you record.
 
Is that troll shit I smell? I didn't want to step in it, so I walked around.
Audiophilze - If you're for real, man, you need to learn which end of the gun points away from you before you pick it up and ask about ballistics. Off to the Newbie forum you go. Good luck.
 
Isn't it a sad commentary when a newb automatically considers pitch correction as part of the sighnal chain?

To me it's something I only think of as an absolute last resort, if I think of it at all.
 
fraserhutch said:
Isn't it a sad commentary when a newb automatically considers pitch correction as part of the sighnal chain?


As if that weren't bad enough, that same newb considers it so vital that he actually puts it ahead of the microphone in the signal chain. Now that's a sad commentary, my friend.

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chessrock said:
As if that weren't bad enough, that same newb considers it so vital that he actually puts it ahead of the microphone in the signal chain. Now that's a sad commentary, my friend.

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now im DEFINITELY no pro, nor do i claim to be.... but i laughed my ass off when i read this :)
 
Makes sense to me..... Pitch correct your voice before it gets recorded. Then mixing is a breeze:D
 
Why stop there, when you can just patch it in to your throat and pitch-correct before a single raw note is even verbalized?

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ive been recording bands for a few years in project studios...
and sometimes when a band is really shit, and i dont have them on an hourly rate (price for package or per song) i'll throw the pitch correction on it constantly...

i'll put auto-tune plug-in on....tweak it as best as i can and just let them ride with it...it'll sound better to them and it will get done.

i, of course, want to get better at my craft and provide bands with the best i can. some bands just are not worth the effort. if they need to rely on pitch correction....oh ill give it to them. and it always sounds like dick.

that being said, in response to the original question

i would put the reverb first...then compress it, then the mic.
 
orksnork said:
i would put the reverb first...then compress it, then the mic.

I just tried this and the singer disappeared? Can I get him back with a side chain? Help :eek:
 
oh i'm sorry...you've ripped the fabric of space-time. please try your call later.
 
No doubt, but the point is that we do not consider it to be part of the signal chain. It's a repair mechanism, as it were, but only a last resort.


orksnork said:
ive been recording bands for a few years in project studios...
and sometimes when a band is really shit, and i dont have them on an hourly rate (price for package or per song) i'll throw the pitch correction on it constantly...

i'll put auto-tune plug-in on....tweak it as best as i can and just let them ride with it...it'll sound better to them and it will get done.

i, of course, want to get better at my craft and provide bands with the best i can. some bands just are not worth the effort. if they need to rely on pitch correction....oh ill give it to them. and it always sounds like dick.

that being said, in response to the original question

i would put the reverb first...then compress it, then the mic.
 
I am glad my question made for such humerous reading! I am not exactly new to this, Iv always recorded vocals preamped strait into what ever I am recording on. I have never really used effects other than a bad boss unit. I am quite thrilled however that you guys mention recording a clean vocal track with simply a preamp and using my outboard effects after its recorded. I record on to 1/2" tape->into protools so if I could keep the track I record on tape a clean vocal track and just add effects when trasferring to protools that would be great. I generally just always recorded plugging a mic strait into my digi 001 or tape machine, I will now bow my head and walk to the newbie section. as far as how possible it is to plug into effects before the preamp, I was referring to effect units that feature some sort of built in preamp or phantom power. Witch is indeed possible, though I now see is a silly idea. and as for me referring to pitch correcters as part of the "signal chain", I guess I should be thrown in newbie jail :-)
 
I wasn't ragging YOU specifically for the pitch corrector, but rather the current climate where it is ubiquitous.

I started at a time where there was no such thing. Tracks were corrected by retracking.

audiophilez said:
I am glad my question made for such humerous reading! I am not exactly new to this, Iv always recorded vocals preamped strait into what ever I am recording on. I have never really used effects other than a bad boss unit. I am quite thrilled however that you guys mention recording a clean vocal track with simply a preamp and using my outboard effects after its recorded. I record on to 1/2" tape->into protools so if I could keep the track I record on tape a clean vocal track and just add effects when trasferring to protools that would be great. I generally just always recorded plugging a mic strait into my digi 001 or tape machine, I will now bow my head and walk to the newbie section. as far as how possible it is to plug into effects before the preamp, I was referring to effect units that feature some sort of built in preamp or phantom power. Witch is indeed possible, though I now see is a silly idea. and as for me referring to pitch correcters as part of the "signal chain", I guess I should be thrown in newbie jail :-)
 
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