pre amps?

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what is a pre amp and what do they do?
do i need one for recording vocals and guitar and bass mostly wirh distortion?
does a 1/4" guitar jack or mic jack plug into it?
 
a preamp is an amplifier that takes the (weak) signal from a microphone or a guitar pickup and turns it into a (strong) signal that recording or playback devices need to function efficiently.

Your guitar amplifier has a preamp, if you take the "line (or effects) out" from your amp, you are using only the preamp. Likewise, if you plug into the "line in (or effect return)", you are bypassing the preamp and going straight to the power amp, the point where the signal gets boosted massively.

same with mixers - think of a mixing board as a row of preamps connected to a row of eq's.

different preamps will have different connectors. Most will have hookups for a microphone and an unbalanced 1/4" jack.

hope this helps.

- housepig
 
only answered part of your question!

whether or not you need one depends on what you are recording to. Most 4-tracks have preamps built into the mixer portion of the 4-track, allowing you to plug in a mic cord or a 1/4" plug.

although you may find that a nicer, outboard (self contained, not part of another piece of equipment) preamp will sound better than the preamps in a cheaper recording device.

same with a computer - you can plug a mic into your mic jack on your soundcard, but an outboard preamp will most likely sound better, and you can plug it's output into the Line In on the soundcard.


what are you recording to?

- housepig
 
Listen to the nice housepig, he's speaking sooth. Please note that preamps also can add, subtract, or change sounds, giving them character. Think of the microphone as the brush, and the preamp as the paint. They are also one of the items in your setup where price is most variable, and you get what you pay for. El cheapo, starts at about $80 for one channel. Mid-range models offer 1 or 2 channels for about $250-$300 per channel. High-end pres can set you back big bucks, to the tune of $5000 per channel and even more. When a rack mounted pre is combined with a compressor, usually in a 1 rack unit single channel, it's called a "channel strip". Some general suggestions to check out- Wicked cheap-Audiobuddy. Mid range-Joemeek VC1Q (1 channel) or twinQcs (2 channels). High end-Neve, Great River, Avalon. Preamps will generally also give you the phantom power you need to use condenser mics. Most home studios will use a mixer for a bunch of fairly cheap channels for many mics (drums, etc.), and 1-4 dedicated high quality channels for mission critical tracks (vocals, acoustic guitar, etc.)
On a side note, there are solid state pres, pres with tubes, and hybrid units that are basically solid state amps with a small tube in the preamp section to introduce variable amounts of "drive"or "warmth" associated with tubes (the British call them "valves"), which really means selective distortion, which may or may not sound good, depending on what you're recording. These are sometimes called "tewb" or "toob" amps. A lot of hype and misinformation has been put out regarding the advantages of vacuum tubes in pres, and there are high end units of both types that work great, as well as some very effective and affordible hybrid units that sound just fine. I use DBX 386, a hybrid unit, and Joemeek twinQcs, a tube unit, for different sounds, and both work very well when used properly. Hope this helps.-Richie
 
This response comes from a similar question I had on another thread. Thanks for the breakdown Richard, this helps me out alot :D
 
Thanks a lot guys that really helps
right now i m saving and plotting out DAW and all its needs and i believe i'll be using a delta 1010 or some delta for a soundcard, but being a solo artist what pre amp would you guys recommend?
my music is mostly metal and hardrock with lots of bass and distorion.
 
Monstertruck, note what I said above- from $80 per channel to $5000 or more per channel. You're asking what pre we would recommend without giving us your budget. Therefore, I recommend an entire rack full of Neve. Grace, Avalon, and Great River pres- about the same price as a new Dodge Viper! Of course, you'll have to let the butler and the upstairs maid go, but you have to make sacrifices sometimes...Richie
 
probably in the $100-$350 range and i need it for mostly recording metal guitar and bass and also vocals thanks again
 
Monstertruck- my best suggestions- Joemeek MQ3 ($190), Studio Projects VTB-1 ($180.00), Presonus Blue Tube ($160). Check www.macmidimusic.com. In your approximate price range, you could get any 2, and having 2 different channels might be useful. 1 for vocals, 1 for guitar, and mix and match for different sounds. Hope this helps.- Richie
 
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