Poll: Who is responsible for all the crap on the radio? (NOTE - multiple answers ok)

[Zed10R]

Sorry to join this thread so late, and I'm sure someone has said it above:

Clear Channel is to blame. In other words Big Corporate Business Whores.

I don't agree. Big Corporate Business Whores are only "successful" if the consumer buys into their decietful plan.

What all media, art, and entertainment has become is 100% the fault of stupid, lazy, "joiner" consumers. There are far more stupid people who just want to join the herd than even mildly intelligent people who see things for what they are. And in this country where the majority usually rules, that means the retards are in charge. Scary, huh?

 

[Fieva]

if you roll a turd in m&m's, it is still a turd

if you roll a turd in m&m's would you eat it for $50 and would it melt in your hand before it got to your mouth...EWWWWW? lol

 

[Fieva]

Oh....by the way...it was me...I did it all for the money which I spent on nookie and now I lay in this hospital bed because I got nookie from a wookie who was a rookie at it and underestimated it's own strength....

I now fart afros....ouch ouch ouch ouch

 

[TaoManna Don]

if you roll a turd in m&m's, it is still a turd

I'm sure that was true in the sixties and seventies; but today's turds are so highly polished that m&ms won't even stick to them.

(I don't know what that means; but I said, so I'm stuck to it.)

 

[TaoManna Don]

(I don't know what that means; but I said, so I'm stuck to it.)

I don't know what that means either.

 

[Blade_Jones]

It's become pay to play. The record company that can afford to hire a promoter to bug program directors repeatedly gets the airplay.

 

[The First Don]

I would rather listen to talk radio than pop music radio.

There is a college radio station here that plays 85% good music, but the broadcast is so weak that you can only hear it if you are within a 10 mile radius of the college.

It seems slightly possible, and hopefully so, that the internet could be the break in the clouds for modern music. It is certainly a way for independent artists to get exposure to non-local areas, which exposure used to be completely controlled by record companies.

The problem that comes with that, is now there is so much crap around on the internet, that it is hard to sift through it all to find the good stuff, so the savvy music fan has to rely on a reliable opinion to recommend good music. That brings the politics back into play, because you have to know the right people to recommend your music before it can really get a chance.

An idea for the internet...

Mabey we should keep it like it is but build on it.

Mabey there should be a way to vote on all of the music that is posted in the review; songwriting boards; ect...

The songs that get the most votes for good and the least for bad could be posted on a different promotional website marketed to the general public. So that the consumer doesnt have to "sift through the shit." Because they aren't going to anyway. Thats probabily why they are buying the shitty music from Mtv, laziness.

Then we should buy are own radio station and put it on yahoo or something

 

[The First Don]

Funny, there was a thread about "who made you start playing" or something like that...
I forgot to list the Monkees. LOVED that show (band?) when I was just a tot. They f**ked up when they started to see themselves as a band and refused to do what they were told. It's funny to see how it all fell apart without the "master mind" behind them. Sugar Sugar was writen for the Monkees...they refused to do it....it was a #1 hit. The Monkees never had a hit after that.

Just like how everything is falling apart in commercial music without the mastermind of the real artist behind the record companies...

Damn record companies are retarded.

 

[KaraokeKancer]

You ever notice how goddamn funny it is though? Seriously, there is more than one person out there who whole-heartedly said, "That's the coolest thing I've ever F*****G seen!" when Limp Bizkit aired their first video. I mean if you step outside yourself for a min and try to understand why someone can/could relate or idolize that crap, you find the humor. No sense in getting pissed about it, in fact I really hate to mention it for fear of letting "THEM" know my thoughts. The next time you are forced to watch, listen to or experience something that you know is not of quality and is just mind-numbing-yes-you-can-have-my-money-all-you-have-to-do-is-tell-me-where-to-put-it-as-long-as-I-am-accepted, do my little thing. Put yourself inside the head of your friend's or co-workers, whatever, and just think about why they find this worth their time. And then laugh really hard. They sing the words and pretend they are whatever image was sold to them! Hahahahahahahahaha! How about the hardcore fans of Insane Clown Posse? How in the fuck can you ever take them seriously? Any fan of those I've ever talked to about why they listen and all that is just oblivious to the fact that I.C.P. just decided to directly target the extreme outsiders. Not only do they get picked on in school, but they trade their money for a C.D. that pats them on head and tells them that's ok. You can run with the Hatchet! I listened to the new I.C.P. cd and the production was horrible. Some of the songs had compressor settings that were just tearing the music apart. I couldn't believe the guy next to me traded $16 for it. Don't get me wrong, I like I.C.P.. I'm not a hater(the generic nickname). I just don't like em so much that I won't call em on their bullshit. Some songs I really like, and not just Neden Game(i'm prepared for that road). I actually don't like that song at all. DON"T BELIEVE THE LIES! YOU ARE PAYING FOR LIIIIIIIIES!!! My hair is blue, gimme a twenty.

 

[Pinachi]

Well i didnt read all of the posts,but i'm glad i'm not the only one that hates the radio these days.In fact i dont even listen to secular radio because theres nothing good left there.Everything is so hatefull,and materialised.You know i was thinking,how can you make a song so evil without cursing?They managed to do it well these days.

Anyway

 

[GoldFalcon]

one word "tweens"

The music on the radio isn't for you, it's for tweens. Remember Saturday mornign cartoons? Why aren't they there anymore? Why are things like Lizzie McGuire, That's So Raven, etc... taking the place of Looney Toons? Becaue those shows are targeted to the tween market which is a HUGE consumer demographic and the largest music buyer demographic.

Radio and CD's are targeted to tweens because that's who buys more CD's than any other group.

If you are in the more obscure genre's like classical, roots, folk, blues, jazz, or Americana then you are used to this anyway. You won't be able to live off of your airplay and album sales will only be generated by your shows and word of mouth. So, you have to decide if you want to be a performing, touring musician for the rest of your life or sell insurance because you ain't gonna get played on Clear Channel because they lose money by playing you.

I see the potential for Sirius and XM to change this but not for at least a decade. Can you hold out that long?

 

[peopleperson]

Korn Signs EMI Contract... OF THE FUTURE!

My friends, my cynics, listen. Toward the end of our sun's life, helium, the product of its fusion, will condense at the star's core. As it becomes packed more tightly together, the sun's temperature will rise to such an extreme pitch that the helium itself will begin to burn, fusing into carbon. The sun will then expand to radiate the incredible resulting energy, and the tiring star will become what we call a Red Giant. At this point, the sun will have begun its steady and suffering descent into extinction. I'll spare you the ugly details -- I'm sure you've heard the rumors, anyway -- but let me suggest, for your daily dose of metaphor, that the mainstream music industry is not so unlike our hypothetical sun; and let me suggest also that you take a moment to imagine our Earth after its once-reliable source of life and light has gone supernova.

Since our recent report on Garth Brooks's new exclusive distribution deal with Wal-Mart [TMT News], evidence has continued to mount that the music industry is spiraling ever nearer its violent collapse. Music's latest concession to the monster's inescapable gravity is holler-metal act Korn, who have for years served as the critical social link between pogs and bonghits. Digital Music News reports that the band has signed a next-generation record contract with Virgin parent EMI, a deal by which, in addition to the standard physical/digital media rights typically retained by labels, Korn will cede authority -- and share revenue -- for nearly all of its creative byproducts, including, according to the report, "touring, merchandising, publishing, sponsorships, and film, TV, book, and video game projects." This follows a similar deal signed between EMI and Robbie Williams a few years ago, presumably the first of its kind.

According to various reports, Korn will receive $15 million upfront (more than doubled what the band would normally receive from a traditional recording contract). In return, EMI will share in Korn's profits, receiving more than 25% of the band's profits from album sales, publishing, merchandising, and touring. Basically, EMI has invested in "the Korn business" in order to take cuts from future revenue streams. "This is the direction that the music business is going," David Munns, chief executive of EMI Recorded Music North America, told the Los Angeles Times. "The music and records we produce drive an artist's career. But our margins are under threat and our marketing costs are getting more expensive. We should share in the other revenue streams that are created."

It's nice to think that the time has finally passed in which we were constantly worried over whether artists were "selling out." Of course few of us ever believed the motivation for Korn's creativity ranged beyond blow, 'tang, and Neo-Geo, but these days, as the nuances of the world's 21st Century economy become more apparent, it's at least easier for us to discern and appreciate the financial arrangements necessary in delivering art and entertainment to such large audiences. So despite what our tastes may tell us about Korn or any other act, we can probably still detect the hint of something troubling in this most recent EMI signing, even if it is only, as Jeff Kwatinetz, head of management company The Firm, puts it, "the necessary evolution that our industry must make, aligning interests among bands, management and recording companies."

In about two billion years, the sun will become so large it will occupy half the sky -- that is, if you're observing from the surface of the molten Earth. Then there will be no Tiny Mix Tapes, no whiskers on kittens, no Kevin Costner to plead his love for the cock, the pussy, and the hanging curveball. Well, no use worrying about that, I guess. Hell, tonight I'm gonna go out and meet me a pretty lady and we're gonna take a spin in my Cadillac. Like in the old days. Yeah. I'll see you there.

 

[peopleperson]

Yeah, it's a fact that fourteen year old girls have the largest buying dollar when it comes to popular music. So blame them. If we could just get em to like Sabbath a bit more, we might be able to turn this thing around.

 

[jdblessing1970]

This thread gives me hope...I write lots of crap; radio plays lots of crap, therefore the odds of someone buying and playing my crap should be pretty darn good!

 

[Trell Blaze]

You wanna know what happened to music? Record companies, which used to be owned and ran by musicians/producers are now owned and ran by guys with buisness degrees who wouldn't know the difference between a trombone and a guitar.

The music industry now has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with music or talent and EVERYTHING to do with money and fame...

 

[69 SG]

MTV.........
Playing those Bongos like a Chim-pan-ze
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Life sucks and then you Die

 

[TerraMortim]

M----t------v

agreed......

 

[danny.guitar]

This thread gives me hope...I write lots of crap; radio plays lots of crap, therefore the odds of someone buying and playing my crap should be pretty darn good!

Yeah, but it needs to sound like all of the other crap out there. Pick a famous band/singer and sound just like them. If you can't tell yours apart, then you made it.

 

[liv_rong]

the first part of this is relative to this thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UAWqwLjN70

 

[liv_rong]

another good one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FktWXipU6HU