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mkamsi
New member
Which plugin you use the most to watch the stereo sounds graphical in a scattered dots type pattern.
JimmyS1969
MOODerator
What is a 'scattered dots type pattern'?
None. Audio has nothing to do with the visual representation of it graphically except for editing purposes. I assume you are asking about a spectrum analyzer?
There is no other reason for it IMO. You mix with your ears. When editing you use the visual graphics to aid in accuracy.
If you try to mix with your eyes, you will find yourself mind-fucking yourself.
You can use an analyzer (anal is in that) to see some frequencies that you cant hear due to system/monitoring/ lacking in room treatment or whatever. But in the end, it comes down to what sounds good.
I suggest never using a spectrum analyzer to make decisions unless you really have a grasp on your room acoustics and have experience with what it is actually telling you. If your room is perfectly treated and your monitoring system is awesome, then you may be able to make some use of such a plug.
That being said, if your room sounds like crap, and your monitors are not up to par for the music-and 50Hz is peaking on the analyzer, well then that will show you that you need to make changes in your monitoring environment.
None. Audio has nothing to do with the visual representation of it graphically except for editing purposes. I assume you are asking about a spectrum analyzer?
There is no other reason for it IMO. You mix with your ears. When editing you use the visual graphics to aid in accuracy.
If you try to mix with your eyes, you will find yourself mind-fucking yourself.
You can use an analyzer (anal is in that) to see some frequencies that you cant hear due to system/monitoring/ lacking in room treatment or whatever. But in the end, it comes down to what sounds good.
I suggest never using a spectrum analyzer to make decisions unless you really have a grasp on your room acoustics and have experience with what it is actually telling you. If your room is perfectly treated and your monitoring system is awesome, then you may be able to make some use of such a plug.
That being said, if your room sounds like crap, and your monitors are not up to par for the music-and 50Hz is peaking on the analyzer, well then that will show you that you need to make changes in your monitoring environment.
Bobbsy
Boring Old Git
If I read properly what you want, my DAW (Adobe Audition) has it built in:
However, as per what Jimmy69 says, I don't think I've ever used this screen for anything other than to impress people watching over my shoulder. I've certainly never used it for mixing and, on the rare occasion I have to measure/check stereo phase, I use a very different (but less flashy) display anyway.
What software are you using? There's a good chance you have some form of stereo phase display of meter built in anyway.
However, as per what Jimmy69 says, I don't think I've ever used this screen for anything other than to impress people watching over my shoulder. I've certainly never used it for mixing and, on the rare occasion I have to measure/check stereo phase, I use a very different (but less flashy) display anyway.
What software are you using? There's a good chance you have some form of stereo phase display of meter built in anyway.
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mkamsi
New member
Yeah I was asking about an analyser like that. thanks
JimmyS1969
MOODerator
And once again, I must ask why this is even important to you? Unless you are micro managing a ride cymbal on a project with a 1.2 million dollar budget, I don't see the purpose. Actually, not even something I would see anyone using other than as a learning tool.
You do realize this is just a digital representation of what shit really sounds like right? Your ears are what makes the decisions. That meter could be friggen whacked out, but if the song sounds good. Then screw the meter.
There are no high end producers worrying about phase correlation meters.
You do realize this is just a digital representation of what shit really sounds like right? Your ears are what makes the decisions. That meter could be friggen whacked out, but if the song sounds good. Then screw the meter.
There are no high end producers worrying about phase correlation meters.
Bobbsy
Boring Old Git
Jimmy, you're forgetting my main use of that display.
It makes visitors to my studio go "oh, wow...that's so pretty!".
Other than that, as I say, I've never used it.
It makes visitors to my studio go "oh, wow...that's so pretty!".
Other than that, as I say, I've never used it.
JimmyS1969
MOODerator
LOL! I have 5 video monitors on my desk. Plenty enough 'oh wow' going on here. 
I just have never found a use for that type of meter. I think Ozone or something had it years ago. Never saw the need then and will never.
But my, they are pretty lights!
Happy new year! Oh wait, that was like two days ago huh?
I just have never found a use for that type of meter. I think Ozone or something had it years ago. Never saw the need then and will never.
But my, they are pretty lights!
Happy new year! Oh wait, that was like two days ago huh?
Bobbsy
Boring Old Git
I've never used that display for anything other than fun either. Maybe once every two years I'll use a more conventional display to check a file sent to me by somebody else because it doesn't sound right but certainly never in mixing.
The one time we DID use a stereo phase display a lot was in my TV days where we'd check satellite and landline feeds coming in (and often find problems) but that as with stereo calibration tones on the line, not just music. In that case, the phase display was a secondary function of a piece of video test gear called a vectorscope which was normally used to check that the colours of colour bars were in the right boxes!
The one time we DID use a stereo phase display a lot was in my TV days where we'd check satellite and landline feeds coming in (and often find problems) but that as with stereo calibration tones on the line, not just music. In that case, the phase display was a secondary function of a piece of video test gear called a vectorscope which was normally used to check that the colours of colour bars were in the right boxes!
JimmyS1969
MOODerator
Guitargodgt
New member
Meh a phase scope can be useful. That's a really pretty one as well. lol
One I use is just lines on an X/Y grid. Works fine but to be honest it doesn't provide as much useful information as the +1/-1 meter underneath it.
Usually more interested in RMS levels (and somewhat peak as well, but not as much) so most of my metering revolves around that.
One I use is just lines on an X/Y grid. Works fine but to be honest it doesn't provide as much useful information as the +1/-1 meter underneath it.
Usually more interested in RMS levels (and somewhat peak as well, but not as much) so most of my metering revolves around that.