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I'm reposting this song because I did not get a single reply last time :(

In respose to a gripe from frank_1 I have forsaken soundclick.com in favor of a web server that lives in my basement. As long as comcast holds my ip address steady, this link should work:

http://24.12.147.53/mymusic/

Please take a listen… I would appreciate any feedback you have.

Thanks
rob
 
good song. my only gripe would be the vocals. It almost sounds like all of the song's tracks (besides the vocals) were bouned to one track and then the vocals were mixed. It sounds like the vocals are not in the same room as the rest of the band. I think a slight autotune on them would help a lot too. What kind of guitar did you use for the clean tones?
 
Thanks for the reply :)

I agree about the vocals. I did a remix before I posted it to try and seat the vocal better in the mix. Problem is I don't realy know what to do about it.

I've not used Autotune before. I will try to get a plugin demo plugin and try it out.

The guitar in the verse is a Fender accoustic, recorded with a close mic and a DiMarzio pickup. The both tracks are compressed and eq'd, and the one from the pickup has some chorus on it. The clean elec in the chorus is the cheapest Yamaha on the market. I think it was recorded DI.

Thanks for your help :)
 
This song is good.


I think the vocals sit pretty good.


Don't worry so much on the technical aspects of recording. Musicianship is number one.

If the song feels good, and you put your heart in it. It will all come out fine, believe me.

This song is good. I liked it.
 
the drums sound VERY small.. there's no life to them and i have to agree about the vocal.. they just don't seem to fit into the mix.. i'd try and compress them a bit more, and back off on the pre delay on the reverb... doesn't really fit... try just using the same reverb through out the enire song.... just vary the levels going to the reverb by adjusting the sends on each track so you have controll over how much reverb each track has... that way it will sound like every instrument is in the same room and you can controll how big you want things to sound... but as i said before, the entire mix sounds small, like it was done in a closet.. i'm not trying to be mean or anything i just don't think that by telling somebody just good things they will never grow.....

apart from my complaints about this i did like the track, it's got a nice hook to it...

cheers

Phil

oh and if you want your snare to sound HUGE... boost it around 60htz.... i know it's a bit wierd but it works
 
First of all thank you all for your constructive criticism, and no, I do not think anyone is being mean. I appreciate your taking time to help me.

I downloaded a demo copy of Melodyne, a tried autotuning the vocal. It’s not perfect, but it does take some of the anxiety out of listening to the vocal track :) Unfortunately the demo version does not let me export a WAV, so I can’t try it in context. Also, there’s a lot of bleed on the track because I don’t have an isolated room. Wherever the track is autotuned, the bleed goes wonky, so it sounds like an old home movie going on in the background. Oh well…

The drums are samples from natural studio (http://www.natural-studio.co.uk/index2.htm) and I though they were pretty good for the price :) I must have messed them up in the mix.

I will try to put some of the advice about reverb into practice. Minofifa and Biotek are right – there is reverb on the vocal but all the other instruments are dry.

Well, I’m glad you liked the song… I will post a remix at some point. Thanks again for your help.
 
Nice song, the opening two lines are a phrased a little awkwardly. The guitar solo gets a little sloppy towards the end of the song. You might want to clean it up or shorten it. The drums do sound weak. Over all it's a nice song. Some nice guitar playing.
 
>>Nice song,
Thanks. I guess part of the problem with the first two lines is that "I feel that you don't like me" is an unusual sort of statement to make. I'm open to suggestions, of course </hopeful>

>>The drums do sound weak
I don't think I compressed or EQ'd the drums much, if at all. At the moment I'm going on the assumption that the other instruments are crowding them out. Which is not to say they are too soft, really, but that I should make space for them in the frequency spectrum. Easier said than done, though, he he :)
 
Actually after listening to your song again it's the first line that doesn't flow smoothly. "I feel like you don't like me (slight pause)very(akward pause) much." The last word drops on an off beat. I think this line should flow a little smoother perhaps without the second pause before much. I would also maybe shorten the song it's a little too long in my opinion. And one more thing the guitar solo at the end should be behind or least equal in volume with the fading chorus. Nice vocals and guitar work once again. What mic are you using to record your vocals and guitar?
 
Well, I have to agree with pretty much all the comments to date. I will re-do the vocal... seeing that I had no takers in my search for a singer :( and ty to correct the phrasing.

And I agree that the song is too long - especially the chorusus at the end. I will shorten it, and the solo, and possibly the double chorus in the middle.

The mic I used is a Shure AXS 3. It was borrowed, because I didn't have one at the time. Now I have an Audio Technica knock-off of an SM-57. It'll do for now. I guess I'll have to buy something better if I am ever able to tell the difference :)

Thanks to all for the encouragement.

--cx
 
Cool song! Are you still looking for someone to do the vocals? I think it'd be a fun project! I could try recording the vocals here while listening to your recording.

What about something like, "I get the feeling you don't like me all that much" for that first line? It's less awkward, but still a bit cumbersome I think.
 
tomleblanc said:
Are you still looking for someone to do the vocals?
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YES PLEASE! I am currently working on a remix based on some of the advice I received here, and I changed the structure a little to shorten it. When I am done I will re-post it, along with an MP3 that does not have vocals in it. If you could record the vocal track and export it to a WAV, we can work out a way for me to get it from you. That would be great. I'll PM you when it's ready.
 
ok.

Goood Song overall. Very good in fact.



What I would change:
The solo I would either retrack by going like you did I'm assuming, DI then also get it thru and amp and push some air. As is, it sounds like it was either DI or recorded with a very tiny practice amp.This would in my opinion add some depth to it.

As for the pause in the first line... I think it works with the semi-quirkiness of the song. If you want, I'd be willing to sing it for you. Get back to me and we can work out the details.
 
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p.s. the lyrics you had posted were slightly different from your take. This is a good song though.
 
tomleblanc , Brich2929

Thanks for offering to sing the song. I have posted a new version at http://24.12.147.53/mymusic/.

There is a version there without my vocal track. I'm not sure how you'd get the new track(s) to me. I have broadband internet access, so downloading a 5 minute WAV is not really a big deal. But I guess we can discuss it when the time comes.

About the guitar sound - Brich2929 hit the nail on the thumb. Some of it was DI'd, and the solo was done with my 15 Watt Marshall practice amp. apparently you are not going to be fooled. I will have to try harder in future :)

And yes, I did mess with the lyrics when I tracked the vocal. The lyrics have to be meaningful, but they also need to flow nicely when sung - I was just experimenting. You can do the same, if you want. Nothing's cast in stone.

And thanks you all once again for listening.

--cx
 
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