Please suggest a feedback destroyer / eliminator

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I searched for this topic in this forum before opening new thread here. I found that many people recommended Behringer feedback destroyers.

There are several models on eBay: DSP1100, DSP1124, Shark DSP110, in addition to other brands like Gemini and Sabine. I really don't know which one would be good for me to use in live application. In addition, the fact that many people are trying to sell these Behringer units after "using them only once or twice" worries me.

Behringer Shark is cheap, but somehow I think that "you get what you pay for." Does anyone have suggestions for any other machine that costs under $100 (eBay used price)? Is there something that I should look for when buying a feedback eliminator?

Thanks.
 
The only one I've ever used that was worth a crap was a Shure unit - Can't remember the model... Got two for live use... They're only a safety net though - If they ever kick in, it's normally because I goofed up squealing out the system.
 
Get the DSP1124. I use one and it's great. Not the best constructed unit and I don't expect it to be working 5 years from now but who cares it's only $110 new. When it dies, I'll buy a new one and take the old one out and use for target practice.
 
deepwater said:
You can get a used Sabine off Ebay for under $100.00 and have a professional unit that will out preform a new Behringer and Nady. Sabine make some of the best Feedback Exterminator on the market.

Heres one going for $60.00

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=23790&item=3758186155&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Used professional equipment is better than New cheap Crap
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I usually don't like the Behringer shit either. But I can't complain about this piece. It does it's just well and it doesn't cost much.
 
The best feedback eliminator I have ever used, and has worked reliably and somewhat perfectly for well around 20 years now:

My ears and a 1/3 octave EQ.

Really. When you are on the verge of feedback, tonally speaking, you usually got a problem too! That is what the eq is for.
 
sonusman said:
The best feedback eliminator I have ever used, and has worked reliably and somewhat perfectly for well around 20 years now:

My ears and a 1/3 octave EQ.

Really. When you are on the verge of feedback, tonally speaking, you usually got a problem too! That is what the eq is for.
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You've never work live sound for a large choir with open chior mics. I always patch one in on my mic sub mix so the whole PA is not affected
 
Wow, great. Thanks guys. I think I will take the suggestion of buying a Sabine feedback destroyer.
 
deepwater said:
You've never work live sound for a large choir with open chior mics. I always patch one in on my mic sub mix so the whole PA is not affected
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Actually, more times than you can ever imagine. I used to be the lead tech at a church. I wasn't until I got in there and just actually did some meaningful stuff with the eq's that the sound there started to be worth a crap. The feedback eliminators weren't really doing the job for them. Once the system was tuned to be usable, the need for them went away too!
 
I'm a sound contractor and work almost exclusively with churches. 99% of technical staff do not have the skills to run sound properly and 99% of churches have poor sound systems. What’s the best way to fix it? Feedback eliminators.

As I referenced in my other post they are perfect for patching into the mic sub mix. When you start working with Pentecostal churches and African American churches where the music is hot, the platform is hotter and the choir whispering the only way to get the gain you need is to have something remove the feedback and you can only do so much Eqing. But I can take an 8-notch feedback eliminator and get another 3db out of the choir with no sound degeneration.

It’s a professional tool and gives professional results. I guess you don't use a compressor on the preacher’s mic. Instead you ride the fader as he goes from whispering to shouting. Just like a feedback destroyer the compressor is a great tool when used properly
 
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I bought a Behri feedback unit for church use. It broke within a day of use. That was the first and last Behri unit I ever bought. Many people seem to have no problems, but I guess I got the short straw and it's an experience I don't care to repeat.
 
or you could just wire the floor monitors input in reverse. sounds a little thinner but works in a pinch.
 
gemsbok said:
or you could just wire the floor monitors input in reverse. sounds a little thinner but works in a pinch.
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Interesting approach. Does this mean a (-) is connected to a (+) on the speaker and vice versa on the other one? Is that going to damage the speakers after a while?
 
aznwonderboy said:
I searched for this topic in this forum before opening new thread here. I found that many people recommended Behringer feedback destroyers.

There are several models on eBay: DSP1100, DSP1124, Shark DSP110, in addition to other brands like Gemini and Sabine. I really don't know which one would be good for me to use in live application. In addition, the fact that many people are trying to sell these Behringer units after "using them only once or twice" worries me.

Behringer Shark is cheap, but somehow I think that "you get what you pay for." Does anyone have suggestions for any other machine that costs under $100 (eBay used price)? Is there something that I should look for when buying a feedback eliminator?

Thanks.
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It depends on what you are using it for. I use a Shark all the time, particularly on corporate events, where IT MUST NOT FEEDBACK, no matter how bad it sounds. It is the only piece of audio gear I keep in my work kit. The Shark does not sound bad, it is quick and easy, and the delay line in it really works well. It is a very handy box, and I almost never do a small gig without it. I never use it for large gigs, or any other Feedback Eliminator. I do it manually. If the rig has good EQs, and I have time to use them, that is what I do.

But for small one or two mic gigs (particularly lavs), I use the Shark, and love it for that purpose. It works well, and doesn't sound bad. It doesn't sound good, but that is true of every feedback eliminator on the market.


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