Phasing when recording DI & miked simultaneously

I would definitely time align them. Manually is easy enough.

If I planned to pan them apart, I would start with them panned center, listen to whatever I considered the primary one, add the other one and slide one (probably the mic) around until muting/unmuting one had the least effect. Then I would pan as desired.

If I planned on just combining them panned the same, I would just make it sound good.
 
If I ever have two or more tracks that are the same, i tend to pan them apart. I never check any more for mono compatibility so the splitting apart things has been my normal procedure for ages, but i cant say i can remember when i had phasing issues?
 
I use DI only as a way to reamp when they bring in crappy amps to record and not use the ones I spent time cleaning up. Micing their stack has never been an issue, but there are quite a few guitar cab setups that sound boring when you go record them. Also, sometimes the guitar player's eq choices are wrong for the mix even though "its their tone'.

But Phase issues caught before recording can be fixed quickly with mic position. Takes I usually just slide the recording in the project than pan it.
 
Here's someting involving mics at different distances, all for a single vocal and no DI'd instruments involved. Not exactly the situation referred to in this thread, but I'm sure phasing is involved, just not worried about as the reverberation probably masked it. I originally heard about this as I listened to a program on NPR discussing Bowie's studio techniques.

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spantini said:
Do you use any plugin(s) to correct phasing, or just slide a track over to align them? Or. . you don't get enough phasing to worry about?
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I use Waves InPhase - but really I don't often get phasing of anything - sometimes when I do the Front and Back of an amp - but I don’t do amps that
much if at all anymore.
 
I have done it and when I pan hard left and right I had no perceptible delay or phase issues. My only issue is that acoustic DI doesn't sound very good.
 
spantini said:
Do you use any plugin(s) to correct phasing, or just slide a track over to align them? Or. . you don't get enough phasing to worry about?
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I enlarge the track until it’s as wide as I can get it them manually align the wav files. This seems to work well for me. I have some software that corrects it but I never use it, because my way seems faster. I can also easily check phase this way.

I started using the UAOXBOX I’ve never an issue because it gives you two phase aligned direct signals with your amp and all your effects.
 
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markmann said:
I have done it and when I pan hard left and right I had no perceptible delay or phase issues. My only issue is that acoustic DI doesn't sound very good.
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Panning hard right or hard left eliminates phasing between the two sources. Phasing only happens when two or more sources are combined.

One way to not have phase issues when recording guitar is to just use one mic.

If you pan hard L&R and everything gets bigger or when you pan them to the middle and things get smaller or lost then you are having phase issues.
 
When I was in college working at the campus station, I ran into a crazy phase situation. Playing Come On - Part 1 from Electric Ladyland one night, on a turntable with a stereo Stanton cartridge with both channels wired together for mono (it was broadcasting AM so no stereo), I was grooving along when suddenly "Jimi left the building" o_O .

Turns out he flipped phase between channels on his solo. The first part is what I was expecting, the second part of this is what I got!

So much for "mono compatibility".

 
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