phase plugin in a mix?

[Steenamaroo]

hi guys,,,

i'm wandering if someone can help me,,


long story short, i've been given a session from college which is comprised of a standard 4 piece band, and all the recordings are completely dry, and un mixed.(bar necessary adjustments)

i have to mix it as a final assignment for the year..

now, i'm happy enough, but there's one thing that is niggling me, and a can't ask a tutor cos we're off for easter now.....


there is a reverse phase plugin used in the session on the snare(bottom) and not the snare top, which i fully understand...that's ok..

but there is also a reverse phase plugin on the bass DI, but not on bass mic...


now, i'm aware of the idea that you can temporarily reverse the phase of a bass track, if you've DI'd and miced,,,,,then time shift one(by the sample) until the volume noticably drops....then take the phase plugin off....

i think i'm right in saying this is to eliminate any discrepancies in the phase between the two, but i see no sign of time shifting in this session..

they've literally just put a phase switching plugin on the bass DI....




I imagine someone will write back and tell me to use whatever sounds good,,,,,but,both ways kinda work,,and i don't wanna look like a twat on my last assignment!lol....


well,,thanks for your time..

hopefully someone will know

 

[gecko zzed]

I can see the point of a phase reversal on the bottom of the snare.

I can see no point in reversing the DIed bass.

If you have to mix this as your assignement . . . then do not feel as if you have to go along with decisions made by someone else.

The mixing starts from the raw tracks, which, of course, is where you start as well.

You are likely to experience far more significant mixing issues than that of a bass phase problem.

I expect you will do a good job, because you are already questioning things . . . which is healthy.

Best of luck with your assignment

 

[Steenamaroo]

hi there, and thanks for that

a bit of faith and encouragement never goes a miss! lol...

i've made the decision to knock it off, as you say,,,there's no need....but we're all still learning right? i figured it better to ask, and to learn than to just accept it as an unknown......




not to milk your advice here, but....i'm also instructed in the criteria to "use synchronisation and midi control within the studio environment"

i've assumed this to mean volume/plugin automation with 003.

There is no requirement to use midi instruments, or any midi trakcs..

is real time automation technically midi control?

thanks again!


<edit> mixes are

dry sample clip -

mixed -

 

[gecko zzed]

hi there, and thanks for that

a bit of faith and encouragement never goes a miss! lol...

i've made the decision to knock it off, as you say,,,there's no need....but we're all still learning right? i figured it better to ask, and to learn than to just accept it as an unknown......




not to milk your advice here, but....i'm also instructed in the criteria to "use synchronisation and midi control within the studio environment"

i've assumed this to mean volume/plugin automation with 003.

There is no requirement to use midi instruments, or any midi trakcs..

is real time automation technically midi control?

thanks again!


<edit> mixes are

dry sample clip -

mixed -

The mix is shaping up well. Given that it is a mixing assignment, I'm not sure how much I should suggest about the mix. But I don't suppose there is any harm in suggesting that you experiment with different piano and kit levels, such as dropping the piano or raising the kit a bit.

I expect that part of the assignment is to test your ability to make use of automation in the mixing process.

 

[Steenamaroo]

yeah,,thanks for that,

i totally respect your decision,and by no means am i looking for someone to 'give me the answer'


but hearing that it's 'shaping up well' is good enough news

thanks for taking the time!