peluso microphones Again

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I know there has been some discussion about Peluso microphones latley. I found a place in Brooklyn NY that says I can come down and demo them by appointment (Whatts up pro audio). I am going to make the trip down so if anyone is in the NY area and wants to meet up to check out this mic with me drop me a line. If I like it and pick one up I will be shure to post some sound samples.

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Nathan
 
Posting samples would be great, since most Peluso owners are unwilling share tunes they've recorded with it. Hmm?
 
Peluso CD in progress

I am now working with John Peluso on a mic demo CD. I spent all last week doing acoustic treatments he wanted done first because I had standing wave problem in the very low frequencies. the Studio is now ready, the artists have been lined up and the copyrights taken care of. John has not fully decided on the format of the CD yet, but it is coming, ASAP.
 
What always concerns me with demo CDs is that it is extremely unlikely that the recording environment used for the demo will equate to the vast majority of homerecorder's bedrooms or studios...........the demos really are only valid for the time and place of their recording.

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Demo CD

I'll be doing the recording for this. Here is the plan:
All microphones thru a Neve 9098 mic pre. using the non transformered output option, straight to the digital recorder with Zaola silver cable and recorded at 44-16. No eq, no compression, no dithering, no nothing except the pre and the levels set to match. This is the straightest path I can think of. I plan both male & female vocal, acoustic guitar, mandolin, violin, acoustic bass and more. John may change this, but this is my plan.
 
Just once, I'd like to hear one of these mic test CDs done through a Mackie 1604 or something, in addition to the Neve/API/Avalon type stuff. You know, an ordinary, low-priced, somewhat standard mixer that normal people who would hang out on homerecording.com can afford. Anything I hear through a Neve is bound to sound good.
 
ausrock said:
What always concerns me with demo CDs is that it is extremely unlikely that the recording environment used for the demo will equate to the vast majority of homerecorder's bedrooms or studios...........the demos really are only valid for the time and place of their recording.

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Pretty much...yet folks still ask for 'em :)
 
Charger, I agree. I have a new 1604 that I use for live sound. We'll see if we can include this in the test. We may include several pre's, highend, lowend, tube, solid state & hybrid.
 
Larry,

Please make sure you include some other, well known high and low end unmodified mics for reference.
 
I will, but this thing sure is getting complicated. We're waiting on an original ELA 251 in pristine condition before we make the test. It is supposedy on the way. You may think we're crazy comparing these microphones to the world classics, but they are that good. The more mics and pre's we use , the more time we tie up the artists. All tracks need to be made in the same session, so this project has to be planned to the T or we can't do it all at the same one.
What microphones and preamps would you people suggest? I know, the perfect test CD would be every mic and preamp made or ever made, but this is impossible. Any suggestions?
 
Larry,

Regardless of what mics and pre's you use there is one thing that will always cast shadows of doubt over the credibility of what you propose to do, and that is the fact that the "manufacturer" of these mics is involved, which, no matter what you or John Peluso may say, will always leave these "tests" with the appearance of an audible advertisement........am I being subtle enough?

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ausrock said:
Larry,

Regardless of what mics and pre's you use there is one thing that will always cast shadows of doubt over the credibility of what you propose to do, and that is the fact that the "manufacturer" of these mics is involved, which, no matter what you or John Peluso may say, will always leave these "tests" with the appearance of an audible advertisement........am I being subtle enough?

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Larry just needs to send the mics over to Fletcher at Mercenary. He'll give an impartial review.
 
I am making a trek up to John's place in Virginia in the near future to check out the mics (we're in SC) but we've heard from quite a few folks they are "all that". I am very excited. Larry, do you work there with John full time? I spoke with John by phone and he's a very nice man. Sounds like a beautiful place to work also!

War
 
I can't send a Peluso microphone to anyone for review because I only own one of each and use them. I do not work with or for John Peluso. I pay the same price for his mic's as anyone else. My only interest was: I found superior sounding microphones that a poor man could buy. I offered my studio services for a demo CD as a favor because he designed the acoustic treatment of my studio and gave my tape machines the onceover and did not charge me anything. I have no financial interest in any way with Peluso other that what I just stated. I highly endorse his mics, Blue's Baby Bottle, the RNC Compressor and the Kurtzweil Rumour effects unit as being great products for the money, and have no financial interest in those companies either. He lives about 100 miles from me and I go to his lab to buy electronic parts every couple of months. We do talk on the phone.

Of course this test CD will be an advertisement for Peluso microphones. Why on earth would a microphone company go to the trouble and expense to make one? It takes guts to put your mic's on the same CD for comparison with the world's best, and, John may not do it. AKG and Marshall have sent me CD's of their mic's. They only let you hear their mics thru different mic preamps. I don't know which John will go with. It's his call. I am only doing the recording and every mic and pre test WILL BE THE SAME setup or I won't do it. I am just as interested as you as to how it turns out. I get many suprises often because I actually test every piece of equipment I buy and A/B against what I already have. I believe little that I read about equipment, especially on forums. I test it myself.

I did talk with John last night and he said he is so busy, that the project can't start until at least next month. When the CD is ready, I'll post the info on this forum.
 
I can only add some hearsay to this discussion, but it's from a reliable source. About a year ago, I went down to Austin and had a chance to hang out with Mark McQuilken and his wife Beth for a few days. Mark is the owner of FMR Audio, the makers of the RNC and RNP. When we weren't talking shop, we drove around to some of the great studios in the area. One was way up in the hills, overlooking a large lake, and was owned by Jack, a retired, multi-millionaire electronics guy. He had a Neve console and about every damn nice mic ever made - all in pristine condition. Jack was a JBL fan and we hit it off right from the start.

Anyway, last week, I was chatting with Mark on the phone and I asked him how Jack was doing. Mark said he was just up there visiting Jack, and Jack was really excited about his new mics from Peluso. I mentioned that there was a discussion going on here and asked Mark how they sounded.

Mark said the 47 didn't sound exactly like the Neumann U47, but sounded like a cross beteen the 47 and a 47fet, with a little more top end than the U47. The 251 Peluso was something else, according to Mark; he said it sounded very similar to the Sony C800G - a VERY expensive mic. He didn't have a Tele 251 to compare it to directly, but Mark was very impressed with both models.

That's all I can contribute to this discussion. Mark McQuilken is a great engineer and he has really good ears. I trust his judgement a lot.
 
THANK YOU Harvey. It feels good to know that I'm not the only person that thinks these mic's are great. This week I've been recording mandolin tracks. I've compared the Peluso small condenser CM6 or what ever that number is, I cant remember, to my Neumann KM56. When run through a Demeter tube pre, it sounds simular in tone, but of course, does not come up to the Neumann. But at the price it supprised me.
 
Larry Blevins said:
THANK YOU Harvey. It feels good to know that I'm not the only person that thinks these mic's are great.
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Well, just keep in mind that these are Mark McQuilken's comments, not mine. I'm just passing them along because I value Mark's opinion very highly. I'm hoping to get a shot at listening to them in the future.
 
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