pchorman causes intonation revival!!

  • Thread starter Thread starter GT
  • Start date Start date
porchman,

You got it.

I still think that doing what you just described by ear, instead of with a tuner may be better.

Now that were getting into temperment, it may be time for the human eliment to take over.

Tuners can only read a note at a time, the ear can read the whole chord.

So much for keeping my mouth shut.

GT
 
Lopp said:
If you want it done right, do it yourself.


That being said, how do you intonate a guitar when the saddles are bolted down with a bolt located UNDERNEATH the string at the bridge? Especially a Floyd Rose-type locking bridge.

From what I can tell, you would have to:

- check intonation
- loosen string to get to saddle bolt
- loosen saddle bolt
- adjust saddle to an approximation of what should be correct
- tighten saddle bolt
- tighten and tune string
- check intonation
- repeat if still off

Is there an easier way?


(I really need more axes with fixed bridges).

I wish there was! I did a 2 year stint as a luthier/repairman and my worst nightmare was those damn Floyd Rose trems and clones. My normal full setup fee was $35 but it was $55 when I had to deal with a Floyd. Its like trying to do a neck adjustment on a Fender that has the truss rod adjustment inside the neck pocket with no access. Loosen strings, unscrew neck, adjust by feel, then put it all back together. Not right? Do whole process again!
 
crawdad
I hear you bro!I was a Charvel/Jackson factory guitar tech 95-97 untill Akaii bought 'em and I hate those damn floyds.
GT,in the spirit of brotherhood and reconciliation, I'll repeat what my classical guitar teacher told us in college,"...just tune to the last chord so that at least you end up in tune".After all,a stopped watch is right twice a day...
 
Tom,

No reconcilliation necessary. We be buds. This subject goes way back in time.

The well tempered clavichord pops into my head, during this thread.

You can try to intonate a guitar, but you can't intonate a fish.

Guitars: So many frets, only one can be in tune at a time, the rest are either sharp or flat, what's up with that?

This is and allways will be interesting.

GT
 
Forget it!

Ok, forget the intonation I'm just gonna go do some
finger picking (not to be confused with berry picking, nose picking
etc :D)
 
GT said:


Guitars: So many frets, only one can be in tune at a time, the rest are either sharp or flat, what's up with that?

This is and allways will be interesting.

GT

That's what makes a guitar sound so good!
 
Firebird,

Man, you nailed it!!

Close but no cigar is what keeps life interesting.

Electronic keyboards are perfectly in tune, yet they will never beat a imperfectly intonated electric guitar.

Still it's nice to get as close as the guitar will permit, which usually is not that close.

I allways wondered if jazz giutars are better in this area, seems like they would have to be.

GT
 
Ajust the pickups on how high or low they are away from the strings. I totally forgot, but one gives you more tone, the other gives you more pick. Find the settings you like. I think more pick = pickups higher but i can be wrong.
Mess around with pickups settings and tone controls to find out what sounds are good for what genres, and believe it or not, you can switch pickups and tone easily live after a bit of practice (eric johnson does it beautifully).
Pickups are a big part, so if you don't like yours, but new ones. And always keep used ones for future, you never know what might be good someday.
Make sure your eq is all good. Experiment with different string sets, i'd highly recommend DR's, whether its the blues strings for a great bluesy sound, high beams for a more metallic sound, or the full tone for more tone. These strings make the biggest difference i've heard in strings, i never though strings could do so much. GHS boomers are also great, but try all the strings at different times when you need them until you find one that you really like.
Other then that, I'd say that a huge deal of tone is in your playing, just like the violin (i play violin). Who cares how crappy your instrument is. YES it makes a difference....but so does your playing. Learn to have a nice Vibrato, hit all the notes, don't make sour bends (actually bend to a certain note).

That's all that I can think of.
 
OOPS!! I feel so stupid! You ment like being in tune..oops.

I dunno I am concert master of the orchestra so I tune the orchestra, so I have perfect pitch. That's how I tune mine.

I don't believe in tuners. Your ear is the biggest part of your playing.
 
My college music dept. chairman had perfect pitch.He would hear an elevator bell (or whatever) and it would be,say,17 cents sharp of B flat and it would just drive him nuts!
I have relative pitch like most.I know my vocal range is down to the low E on the guitar (baritone) so I can get pretty close without the psychological torture as above.
 
Back
Top