Pc Troubles

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Hi,

I recorded +-100 tracks and I really have troubles with mixing them.
What would be the best purchase/tweak to have a more stabile pc?

Specs:
AMD Athlon 64 3500+
1 GIG DDR-2 RAM (1slot)
SATA HD 300 gigs

Programs:
Audition
44000 hZ
Plugin's: WAVES

I already ''locked'' the files with plugin's , but what to do with the busses?

Tracks:
8 drum tracks
10 guitar tracks
9 solo guitar tracks
22 vocal tracks

Song = 4.40 minutes long
+-100 pieces all together


ANY tips would be nice,
Thanks in advance
 
Okay, that's only 49, where's the other 51 tracks? :D

Can't you bounce some of those tracks down and archive the originals?

Do you really have 22 vocal parts going on at one time, or 9 solo guitar parts for that matter? I don't know the makeup of the song, but surely you can consolidate those a little.
 
Blor007 said:
Hi,

I recorded +-100 tracks and I really have troubles with mixing them.
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I think anyone would. Well, maybe not Yanni.

I'd have to agree with metalhead28.
 
Well vocals are doubled and recorded into different fragments:

So couplet = 2 vocals + sometimes 2 harmonic vocals = 4 vocals.
Chorus= 2 vocals + 2 harmonics + 2 backings= 6 vocals
Bridge= 2 vocals

In the chorus every sentence is recorded seperatly so 4 pieces* 6 vocals = 24 small pieced tracks for chorus :)

Would it help to mix them down?

Solo guitars are 9 guitars layered for solo stuff.
Actual solo = 3 tracks
Small riff = 2 tracks (heavily distorted)
Harmonic pinch note =1 track
Riff 2 = 2 tracks (clean)
Riff 3 = 2 tracks (mid distorted)


So I dont think I can save space... I think I need some tips on how to use a bigger buffer or maybe preload effects on Busses.
Without any effects I don't have any problems mixing it.
(EQ from Audition/channel and sending to busses)
Once I start using Waves plug-ins it kinda fails :(
 
I don't know man, it sounds like you've got a ridiculous number of tracks for what you're trying to do.
You've just got to use your judgement and decide on some things you can mix down or combine to cut down on tracks.

Beyond that, you could probably set your latency really high if all you're doing is mixing. Shouldn't make a difference.
 
Alright man, here's what you've got to do...

Submix these things. Solo all your background vocals and get them mixed down into a stereo track. Or a pair of stereo tracks if you prefer, but you need to mix them down. And then bounce them over to a track with all the compression and EQ (not reverb) applied. That way when you're mixing the final project, you can just bring up the fader for the background vocals, maybe put a little bus EQ on there, run out to a vocal reverb send, and you've saved 20 tracks.

Do the same thing with the guitars...get your solo to where you like it with compression and EQ (save the reverb for later), get all your levels where you like it, and bounce it to a stereo track.

I'd keep your rhythm guitar separate, or if you double tracked them, bounce them with EQ and compression.

See the trend? Submix the similar instruments and bounce them to a stereo track. This is kind of how I mix, except I have about 15 to 20 tracks total. I don't bounce them, but I do "freeze" the individual tracks (bounce them with effects to save CPU power) and submix into buses.

So my mixes will have say 8 drum tracks, 4 guitar tracks, 4 vocal tracks, and a bass guitar...I mix the drums out to a drum bus, mix guitars out to guitar bus, mix background vocals to a bus, and run bass and lead vocals straight to the master bus.

Another cool thing you can do is get your drums sounding good all by themselves...then when you bring up the guitars, you notice the drums are too bright or too jumpy...apply a little (a LITTLE) EQ or compression on that bus and everything gels. This works especially well on background vocals.
 
Why don't you ... uh... compile the vocals? You don't have to keep all the little fragments on seperate tracks. Scoot all the fragments of one complete vocal together onto one track. Surely you don't ever have all 100 tracks happening at the same time...
 
You can rent some time on DOD or NASA cray supercomputers. Don't they have pro tools or Cubase loaded on them allready???

Sorry, I guesss the don't have Audition on government computers.


on the serious side , you need to go here. http://www.fx-max.com/
 
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