Hard2Hear said:As far as Carvin...
Hard2Hear said:Buck-
It would serve you well to never go quoting Ed Roman ever again. Everyone knows he's a weasel with his own agenda.
H2H
Hard2Hear said:You cited his site as a source. I'm just trying to help YOU out here as to not get stuck as an "Ed Roman quoter". Trust me, you would not like the fellow in person and would feel the same way I do after just talking to him one time. You're a good guy, he is NOT.
H2H
ecktronic said:Woaahh, now im really confused. Almost kinda wish i hadnt asked!! No cheers all for the debate and great info. I heard that the new lower range Korean PRS guitars (soapbar for example) are factory made cheaply. SOunds like i they are charging a bit much for their guitars and kinda beleive the idea of the name being better than the new guitars actually are. But im just taking this from this thread and some other sources.
Im going to try and not let the look of the guitar or name of guitar (or hopefully even price) effect my choice of purchase although i know this is almost impossible to do unless i had no idea at all about guitars. I want a guitar for the tone and also the build quality thats all. Suppose the upper market types of Gibson and PRS have good build quality.
But im just confused really. I would prefer a guitar make that i know but im open to at least trying out unheard of names.
Cheers all.
Buck62 said:PRS guitars used to be handmade and reasonably priced, now they are entirely machine made and ridiculously overpriced,
Buck62 said:he has made many costcuts such as installing cheaper bridges (went from his famous tremolo to a cheap non adjustable stoptail - you can't properly adjust individual strings for intonation),
Buck62 said:they have great finishes - but you can't hear or play a finish. PRS inlays are outsourced to Pearlworks. For a lot less money you can buy a better guitar by Nik Huber, Carvin, Roger Giffin, Gene Baker Guitars, Bunker, Malden, Belman, Heritage, Gibson, Jaros Guitars, Guild, Terry McInturff, David Thomas McNaught, Dean USA, or Ed Roman.
Buck62 said:...
now Gibsons have improved and the Gibson Les Paul Standard Double Cut guitar is better than the PRS guitars.
Buck62 said:Most of the parts are outsourced. [/quote[
Wow, this guy is really completely clueless. Much of their hardware (bridges, gears, etc.) is made by outside manufactures. The same is true of Gibson, Taylor, Fender, Martin, and every other builder in the world. Why? Because Gotoh does it better, and cheaper.
Buck62 said:PRS customer service is nonexistant, unless you're a famous endorcee.
Well hey, even a blind squirrel sometimes finds an acorn. He's right about this one.
Buck62 said:The Korean made clones sold by Samick, Dillion, Phil Musical, and John Hornby Skewes actually have better hardware than PRS's USA assembled guitars.
Back to totally clueless. What a surprise.
Now, you will notice, I am only commenting on their build quality. I, personally, do not like their SOUND, but that is a personal reaction. I like a guitar which has a more pronounced attack, and is a bit brighter. But then, that is at least part of why I build guitars.
If PRS has the sound YOU like, then that is the guitar you should get. End of story. And don't ever let anyone tell you their quality control is bad. In that regard, they are one of the best in the business. I just wish they would do a better job of customer service, but that is a bit self serving, as I would love to be their service center, as I already am for Martin, Gibson, Fender, Taylor, and quite a few others.
By the way, Buck, I was not picking on you, just the guy who wrote the article. It was simply a good way into the conversation.
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