NL5
Unpossible!
Half normalled.
That way when nothing is plugged in, the signal will pass thru the patchbay like nothing is there. When you plug something into the top and/or bottom, the signal is interrupted.
So if you go from your preamp to the patchbay, then to the converter, you would take the top plug and send that to the "in" on your comp" take the "out" from the comp and put it in the bottom plug. Now, your comp is inline on that channel.
Make sense? I suck at explaining things over the internet.
That way when nothing is plugged in, the signal will pass thru the patchbay like nothing is there. When you plug something into the top and/or bottom, the signal is interrupted.
So if you go from your preamp to the patchbay, then to the converter, you would take the top plug and send that to the "in" on your comp" take the "out" from the comp and put it in the bottom plug. Now, your comp is inline on that channel.
Make sense? I suck at explaining things over the internet.
MadAudio
Damned if I do
Are you saying that you're patching the mic into the patchbay?
JTC111
Active member
I'm not sure what you're saying. I guess what I want to be able to do is chain things together. Let's say I have a mic pre connected to patch #1 and a compressor to patch #2. I want to be able to send a signal into the pre through the #1B patch (input to mic pre) and send the signal from the pre to the compressor by patching #1A (output from the pre) to #2B (input to the compressor). Which configuration should I use for that? My head tells me to use the "isolated" configuration but my head is often wrong.
Half normalled.
That way when nothing is plugged in, the signal will pass thru the patchbay like nothing is there. When you plug something into the top and/or bottom, the signal is interrupted.
So if you go from your preamp to the patchbay, then to the converter, you would take the top plug and send that to the "in" on your comp" take the "out" from the comp and put it in the bottom plug. Now, your comp is inline on that channel.
Make sense? I suck at explaining things over the internet.
JTC111
Active member
This is the patchbay I'm using.
JTC111
Active member
Yes, until I get around to making an XLR bay, I'm using my 1/4 inch bay. But I'm aware of the dangers of unplugging mics from a hot 1/4 inch bay and I'll be careful.
NL5
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Isolated for the comp ins/outs. You want the preamp to automatically go to the converter, right? Then be able to insert something into the path?
edit - and I have that exact patchbay - as well as a TT bay hooked to the Trident
NL5
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I think so. You will just have to patch in EVERYTHING. Luckily, it's easy to change back the other way if you change your mind. Normalled just means it will automatically go to where it normally would go. If that makes sense. You are essentially just putting all the inputs/outputs to the front of the patchbay.
Don't be, its a royal PITA. Especially since half my stuff is on 1/4". The Nuetrik is much better made as well.
NL5
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The more I think about it, I'd still normal the pre's to the converters. You would patch a comp in EXACTLY the same way anyway. And, you could daisy chain exactly the same way. Only difference is if you were going straight in, you wouldn't need a patch cord.
JTC111
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Thanks. Yeah, that just works better for me. I can visually see the signal path that way and it makes my brain hurt less.
Don't be, its a royal PITA. Especially since half my stuff is on 1/4". The Nuetrik is much better made as well.
I guess I was swayed by the coolness factor. Those TT bays always look so damn impressive.
NL5
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It still would, yes. The four would be normalled to your 4 inputs. If you decided to use pre 5 instead of pre 1 lets say, you would just take the output from 5 and put it in the bottom of channel 1.
JTC111
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I kinda sorta understand what you're saying but unless someone is sitting here with me drawing pictures, I don't think it's something my brain is going to retain it or fully comprehend it too easily. I think I'm better off sticking to isolated (the setting for simpler minds apparently).
NL5
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Yeah, it would be WAY easier to just show you. It's really not that complicated. Maybe someone can explain better than me. Sonic Albert is pretty good with this stuff - he helped me out quite a bit when I was getting started.
You should have seen me when I got the Trident. It was supposed to be shipped with all the wiring and labeled with a manual. It showed up with no wiring at all, and no manual. I had to figure out the stupid patchbay and ELCO's from SCRATCH. Talk about a PITA. Took me MONTHS!
JTC111
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Yeah, it would be WAY easier to just show you. It's really not that complicated. Maybe someone can explain better than me. Sonic Albert is pretty good with this stuff - he helped me out quite a bit when I was getting started.
You should have seen me when I got the Trident. It was supposed to be shipped with all the wiring and labeled with a manual. It showed up with no wiring at all, and no manual. I had to figure out the stupid patchbay and ELCO's from SCRATCH. Talk about a PITA. Took me MONTHS!
So why do we put ourselves through all this?
NL5
Unpossible!
Mental deficiency?
I'm obsessed with music! Now, if I could just learn to play.........
SonicAlbert
Super-Sonic "Herb" Albert
If you don't want to split the signal you should probably just use "non-normalled" which is what they refer to as "isolated". It's a straight through signal from rear to front of the patchbay.
It means you need to make every connection at the front of the patchbay. But that's not a bad thing because the patch cables allow you to see your routing at a glance.
Don't forget to label the front of your patchbay!
It means you need to make every connection at the front of the patchbay. But that's not a bad thing because the patch cables allow you to see your routing at a glance.
Don't forget to label the front of your patchbay!
JTC111
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Yep, that's what I did. I like being able to see it laid out in front of me. I even have patch cables in different colors so I can see the sound chain better.