Pain By Numbers.

[Monkey Allen]

Sounds great...good skills, good playing...nice one

 

[RAMI]

It's true that there have been many times I've used no reverb on my kit at all. That's not all the time though. My faster more in-your-face mixes usually have little to no reverb on the kit...or anything else for that matter. Some others mixes will get some room on the kit. What I never do is make it noticeable in the mix. You can hear the room on my drums solo'd, but not in the mix. I HATE reverb tails unless I'm going full crazy surf bonkers. I like a big room effect but with quick decay. That's what real rooms sound like - even big ones. There's no long echoing reverb tails in real life unless you're in Madison Square Garden, and I'm not making a mix to sound like I'm in there. Big room, quick decay, good drum sound.

OK that make sense. I agree about how noticeable reverb tails should be.

Also take into consideration that I spent a couple of hours tonight laboring over one of my own fake drum tracks with EZDrummer and an e-kit. So my perception of what real drums in a real room sound like are most likely skewed at the moment (and in general ).

Unfortunately I'm too much of a novice to really give you a quantitative opinion on your drum sound. I just wanted them...bigger. Like a more present snare, mainly. The kick and snare are so huge to the fundamentals of western 4/4 music, something in the back of my brain just wants them to be featured in a mix. I just don't know how to elucidate what that means in terms of knobs and sliders.

I tend to compress the holy living shit out of the kick and snare, and mix them in at relatively low levels. Let the overheads do the work, and let the squashed kick and snare accentuate it. But again, that's me as a beginner drum mixer...

Cool. Well, either way, you got me thinking about the way I do things, and that's a good thing.

That little toy piano sound at 1.08 sounds little girl lost in the woods. Either bring it up or give it some kinda attitude. I don't think it's supposed to have attitude, so how can you make it better heard? Turn it up?

This just sounds so good. Listening to certain stuff in the this forum has got me listening to my own stuff with a more critical ear. Thanks.

Thanx. It's hard to assess that piano's volume in an instrumental mix of a song that's not really an instrumental. That part is the chorus and there are going to be vocals there that are going to be dominant. The piano is just sort of supporting. But we'll see when I put the vocals in. Thanx man.

Sounds great...good skills, good playing...nice one

Thanx buddy.

 

[RAMI]

....Oh, and I urge anyone who records real drums to go back and read Greg's Guide to recording drums in the drum forum. I read it once or twice a long time ago, but just went back and read it again. It's a great refresher. I'll be working on mixing my drums when I get home from work today. Lots of stuff to change and try out.

Sometimes you got to take one step back to get 2 steps forward in life.

 

[rayc]

I reread the stuff a couple of weeks ago when I needed to work on a snare.
Certainly worth trying, (it worked naturally enough), and worth publishing.

 

[BroKen_H]

Das ist sehr schön! über schöne!!
I like it, you can dance to it and it kinda makes you wanta BUG OUT! Seriously, I think the only thing I disagree with so far, I like the drums dry and tight just like they are. Fits the song and it's mood nicely...maybe it's just me.
That is truly a brilliant guitar sound. Now I have to add an SG to my wishlist...

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