One note bass ?

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Anyone know the cause of one note bass ? I've read how it can be fixed, but I'm not thrilled about the solution (cutting just that exact freq with an eq) any other suggestions on avoiding the dreaded "one note bass".
 
Why aren't you thrilled with the solution? Cutting the problem frequency will be the simplest, and probably most effective way to deal with it.
 
Anyone know the cause of one note bass ? I've read how it can be fixed, but I'm not thrilled about the solution (cutting just that exact freq with an eq) any other suggestions on avoiding the dreaded "one note bass".

Are you really having a problem with this? Don't chase ghosts that aren't there.
 
Are you really having a problem with this? Don't chase ghosts that aren't there.

Agreed. It'd be interesting (and helpful) to know what's going on, how you (OP) think you got that.
 
What is "one note bass" ?

If the OP and I are thinking about the same thing, then it's where you have a bass recording that has a rather loud, very selective low frequency to it. It increases the volume at certain frequencies.

Am I right?
 
It's when one bass note jumps out more than others. On my bass setup, it's usually between A and D on the E string.

Like a B (7th fret) on the E is boomy, but the same B (2nd fret) on the A is fine.
 
It's when one bass note jumps out more than others. On my bass setup, it's usually between A and D on the E string.

Like a B (7th fret) on the E is boomy, but the same B (2nd fret) on the A is fine.

That's normal. That's why bass players make the choice to play different parts in different positions. The same thing happens on guitar to a lesser extent. Sometimes you choose to play an "A" on the 7th fret of the "D" string, which is wound. And sometimes you want to play it on the second fret of the "G" string, which isn't wound. It's just a different sound depending on what you want.

Like you said, why are people creating problems that don't exist? :eek:
 
Why aren't you thrilled with the solution? Cutting the problem frequency will be the simplest, and probably most effective way to deal with it.
Cant help wonder if it effects the tone of the other notes/negatively

Are you really having a problem with this? Don't chase ghosts that aren't there.
Good question which is why I thought I'd just see what other guys say about it. Its hard to know whether its the recording, or just the speakers in a particular room that create the trouble.

What is "one note bass" ?
You can get "one note bass" on any bass instrument, acoustic, electric, synthisizer.


Thanks for all the replies, mastering compression helps even out the subs too, but I like a booming bass in alot of stuff, its only a problem when a song is pumping away in a club (or system with heavy sub woofer) and this wopping sub note booms out. Most pro stuff is very even, (although I've heard it sometimes) it may be that I know very little about Mastering, but any way to even out a sound without compression is worth knowing to me.
 
Cant help wonder if it effects the tone of the other notes/negatively

Not if you use a narrow Q to isolate the problem frequency. The problem is too much information that is muddying up everything else operating at or around that frequency and drowning it out.

The Katz method uses a Q of 12 so that's a pretty narrow notch filter.
 
The Katz method uses a Q of 12 so that's a pretty narrow notch filter.

Thanks, Yeah I've seen that method demonstrated and it does work. Thanks for pointing out that its build-up, rather than some mysterious bass problem.
 
Thanks, Yeah I've seen that method demonstrated and it does work. Thanks for pointing out that its build-up, rather than some mysterious bass problem.

Thanks for all the replies, mastering compression helps even out the subs too, but I like a booming bass in alot of stuff, its only a problem when a song is pumping away in a club (or system with heavy sub woofer) and this wopping sub note booms out. Most pro stuff is very even, (although I've heard it sometimes) it may be that I know very little about Mastering, but any way to even out a sound without compression is worth knowing to me.

The ref' I think of for 'one note was a way of characterizing crappy speaker's ways of passing for 'bass response'. :D

But really, let's a least start by dividing your various causes between source categories- As in is/was it fairly equal from the recording of the instruments (going back that far), and/or did it get corrected (if need be) for the finished mix?
–And the external- The track is 'level', but playback systems and environments are a moving target?

I liken this to something similar a few octaves up; I have had mixes sound acceptably balanced on my system but sound out of whack in the upper bass on some 'hi fi's, where a ref disk didn't not.
The difference- They were more scooped or controlled in the region.
My take on this is that while a flat(er) low distortion system is at the same time a more accurate and neutral platform, it is also in some ways more forgiving. A bit of build up' coming off as 'character in a mix can collide with these various humps' in rather interesting ways.
 
I liken this to something similar a few octaves up; I have had mixes sound acceptably balanced on my system but sound out of whack in the upper bass on some 'hi fi's, where a ref disk didn't not.
The difference- They were more scooped or controlled in the region.
My take on this is that while a flat(er) low distortion system is at the same time a more accurate and neutral platform, it is also in some ways more forgiving. A bit of build up' coming off as 'character in a mix can collide with these various humps' in rather interesting ways.

Interesting, in my recent case it was a problem "G" note. I tried cutting 49, 98, 196, and 392 with a narrow Q as suggested. -7 (or more)@ 98hz made the difference. (the other Freq(s) made no noticable change).
 
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