One more XLR wiring Question

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I'm wiring some Neutrik XLR connectors that have four soldering lugs. I know what to do with pins 1,2 and 3:

1 - cable shield
2 - signal +
3 - signal -

The fourth solder lug is connects to the XLR shell and I'm assuming it needs to be connected to the cable shield as well, yez/noh?
 
Don't know if it makes any difference but the other end of the cable is TRS.
 
Yep, shell floats. I've looked for info on this and can't find any. I've never connected the shell to anything and don't know anyone who has. On the Neutrik site the connector is listed as having three contacts. I've e-mailed them to see if I can get a definitive answer.
 
Phyl- thanks for that thread. Some great info in there. Bit I think this is the important paragraph. (Looks like I don't have to wait to hear from Neutrik). This is from Frederik, alomost at the end:

Then I asked about XLR panels - he said that the XLR has three connections, pin 1 being ground, and THAT is the ground that goes back to the mixer through the shielding of the soldered on cable. He sasid XLR connectors technically have four paths to conduct - pin 1, pin 2, pin 3 and the shell casing, but the shell casing is not used in audio applications. In scientific test instrument applications pins 1, 2, 3 are connected to multi-conductor shielded cable and the shield terminates in the shell housing of the plug, which connects to "G". Audio doesn't use the "G" tab or the shell for any audio purpose. I said I remembered we had wires off the XLR "G" tab soldered to pin 1, he said no, those "G" connections were attached to the steel panel the jacks were mounted in, and the reason for this is to prevent the transmission of hum and noise should large antennas (people) plug an XLR plug into a jack, while the input channel is on. The hum your body picks up is shunted through the shell of the connector plug, into electrical ground, and the mixer doesn't have to bend meter needles listening to it. This is a safety catch for stupid people who plugs things in with input channels not at infinity.

So no, you do not have to connnect the shell. Doing so may even create a ground loop as you are creating another path to ground for noise in the signal.
The XLR and TRS shields are not connected to the chassis. If you use a metal xlr jack, you may get noise by connectiong shell to ground.
 
Yup, your right. I'm a little behind you but I just got to the same point in the thread.

Great info since I'm in the process of re-doing my studio layout.
 
Like boingoman, I've not seen the shell connected to the shield like that, or even a Neutrik with four lugs. I use Neutrik's when I make my own cables, so I am familiar with them. What is the model number?

It makes sense for an installation like what is described in that other thread that is linked to, but really I've not had any problems with my cables wired with the shells floating. No noise, no ground loop, none of that stuff. It's quiet.
 
They're NC3FX connectors I got off eBay.

I'm building cables to connect my pre-amp and compressor to a TRS patch bay. I'm using some Mogami 2549.

Here's what I plan to do:

TRS Tip - XLR Pin 2
TRS Ring - XLR Pin 3
TRS Sleeve - XLR Pin 1

XLR Shell open
 
ohw

interesting, had the same question,

so i just left all those Fourth lugs (or how do you call it) as they are....

i'm gonna make like one cable or so with the fourth lug connected...
to see what it does...but i guess it won't do much...
 
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