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Me78332
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Anyone know websites explaining the one handed role, i really want to learn it!!!
tourettes5139
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Thunder33
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just hold the paper in your right hand, sprinkle in the herb of your choice, and then......oh wait, you probably mean something totally different......nevermind.
metalhead28
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Grip the stick with just your thumb and index finger so that it is free to pivot up and down. Hit the rim and the head at the same time, follow through and let the back of the stick drop below the rim so that tip is see-sawed up above the drum head. As you raise your hand, snap the rear of the stick back into your hand with your other fingers so that the tip strikes the head again as you pull the stick away from the rim.
I've also seen people do the same thing without using the rim by just letting the stick lever back and forth in their grip with their thumb and index finger. Alot of extreme metal drummers do hyper fast blast beats this way. "Gravity Blast" they call it.
I've also seen people do the same thing without using the rim by just letting the stick lever back and forth in their grip with their thumb and index finger. Alot of extreme metal drummers do hyper fast blast beats this way. "Gravity Blast" they call it.
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fritzmusic
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THIS ROCKS!!! This Johnny Raab video that outlines the technique was entirely alien to me yet is EXTREMELY easy to pick up on if you listen carefully. Sorry if I seem flabbergasted and excited about this but I watched the video and tried it out for the very first time today.
During the first 10 minutes of trying it, I couldn't get anything going at all because the video implies and doesn't specifically detail the tightness of grip so I gripped the stick more relaxed than usual but to no avail. After getting frustrated, I was about to throw my sticks at the video and out of sheer anger, I gripped harder and "paydirt!" realized the harder, or more normal I gripped, then it started rolling. I got a full one-handed double-stroke and buzz roll going in less than 30 minutes and I've always sucked at any steady, fast technique on any given hand. It'll take awhile to get it real solid on either hand to incorporate it into actual playing but I was dumbfounded at how utterly simple the concept is once I "got it".
If you can do regular double-stokes (with both hands at any speed), you can likely get to work in less than an hour. Time well vested! My guitarist came over and absolutely freaked out when I showed him my newest trick of one-handed rolls! lol.
Many thanks to tourettes5139 who linked to Tim Brown's scared-up video link. I really needed that to break some plateaus. That was one of the most enriching and inspiractional things I've been able to accomplish in a long, long time. Gosh I love this forum!
During the first 10 minutes of trying it, I couldn't get anything going at all because the video implies and doesn't specifically detail the tightness of grip so I gripped the stick more relaxed than usual but to no avail. After getting frustrated, I was about to throw my sticks at the video and out of sheer anger, I gripped harder and "paydirt!" realized the harder, or more normal I gripped, then it started rolling. I got a full one-handed double-stroke and buzz roll going in less than 30 minutes and I've always sucked at any steady, fast technique on any given hand. It'll take awhile to get it real solid on either hand to incorporate it into actual playing but I was dumbfounded at how utterly simple the concept is once I "got it".
If you can do regular double-stokes (with both hands at any speed), you can likely get to work in less than an hour. Time well vested! My guitarist came over and absolutely freaked out when I showed him my newest trick of one-handed rolls! lol.
Many thanks to tourettes5139 who linked to Tim Brown's scared-up video link. I really needed that to break some plateaus. That was one of the most enriching and inspiractional things I've been able to accomplish in a long, long time. Gosh I love this forum!
Tim Brown
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fritzmusic said:
Yep, there are some badasses out there. Some of these young guys are scary with the speed, man. But it's really inspiring. I learned a different kind of one-handed roll. I learned the one that Buddy Rich used to do...you could watch his left hand and see him doing it with the traditional grip - which I tend to use a lot. I liked using it when I was marching in HS, and years later reverted back to it for most of my basic playing.
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fritzmusic
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Hey Tim, do you have any links or tips on how to do the Buddy Rich roll? That's the first one I've seen or heard of but never could find any info on it. I play traditional grip as well on certain styles of music. Kewl you played snare in HS. I wish I did too but the director put me on quads...lol. Dang those things get heay after marching a mile....
tourettes5139
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fritzmusic said:
No problem man. Glad I could help!!
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Tim Brown
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fritzmusic said:
What you do is, you hold the stick in a traditional grip, and then flick it back and forth between the middle and ring fingers. It will take a while to build up the muscles enough to manipulate the stick. For me it was fairly easy because of all the years playing traditionl grip as a teen ager.
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shadowlorde
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fritzmusic said:
www.drummerworld.com
look for jo jo myer then watch the video called buddy rich stick trick (i think its called)
and for a matched grip version go to paiste's site www.paiste.com and go to artists look for gordy knudston ( spelling?) he has a video clip from a video he made teaching "open close " technique
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fritzmusic
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Awesome! Thanks, guys.
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kellySHU
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Thunder33 said:
Now that is funny! thanks guys, i found the video! Great technique! Hey Thunder33, you get some rep for that one!
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Atterion
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I've seen Max Weinberg do something very similar to the old Buddy Rich technique. Good Stuff!!!Tim Brown said:
Tim Brown
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Atterion said:
Some of the pro's who have gotten to study with the "old timers" learned it - It's definitely something that was almost lost due to the fact that so few play with traditional grip these days. I think people need to be able to play both ways, just because there are advantages to each.
Max Weinberg is definitely an awesome drummer. I remember back in the 80's, he got Carpal Tunnel Syndrome from all the years of Rimshots while playing behind "The Boss". And it was really interesting because he wrote an article about it - I think it was in Musician Magazine, but it was extremely detailed, but that was when he changed his style to more of a Moeller technique, and I believe that is also when he made the permanent switch to Traditional grip. He gets overlooked lot of times, but the guy is simply a monster on the kit....plus he's got a great sense of humor as well.
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Atterion
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I remember seeing that at one point. I tried to see if it was online but couldn't find that exact article, but did find a very good one which does indeed reference Max http://www.paul-lehrman.com/insider/2000/08insider.html
A good read for anyone who cares about their wrists. And yes Max is a monster.
It's funny too because I am a HUGE fan of the "Monster Kits". I've always tried to surround myself with as many drums, cymbals, and percussion elements as humanly possible, but with the exception of Nicko McBrain and Neil Peart, all my percussion hero's all played small kits, and most of them utulized traditional grip (which sadly I have more or less abandoned).
A good read for anyone who cares about their wrists. And yes Max is a monster.
It's funny too because I am a HUGE fan of the "Monster Kits". I've always tried to surround myself with as many drums, cymbals, and percussion elements as humanly possible, but with the exception of Nicko McBrain and Neil Peart, all my percussion hero's all played small kits, and most of them utulized traditional grip (which sadly I have more or less abandoned).