Oktava MK 319 or Shure 58 for home studio?

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The MK-319 has better switches than the MK-219 as well.

The housing is radically different, and there seems to be substantial improvements/degradations attributed to differences in microphone housings - so the MK-319 may be an appreciably better microphone than the MK-219. Or not. (shrug)

If you have phantom power, the choice of a MK-219 or MK-319 over the Shure is a no-brainer.

Again, test your Oktavas against each other before taking one home.
 
IMO,if you are looking for an inexpensive preamp avoid the Art Tube MP and other "tube"hybred designs.They might work as an effect but I would no way track everything through them.I have an MP and I think it is a POS.It does sound marginally better than some shitty onboard pres but not better enough to justify spending $80 on it.

The best deal going for a cheap pre is the M-Audio Audio Buddy.Two channel,solid state mic pre/direct box that is available from www.americanmusical.com for $79.It absolutely blows the Art out of the water.Very clean and quiet with plenty of gain.I think it is an amazing bang for buck item where as the Art (IMO)is just a waste of money.

Lt Bob,from what I understand the pres on the VLZ pro series are very good.You would have to spend a good chunk of change to get a standalone pre that would be an upgrade.
 
I like the tone of the ART Tube MP, I just don't like that it makes a pretty good FM radio receiver!

scodu
 
The MK219 and MK319 are the same mic with the aforementioned differences

first off the 319 has a relieved (rounded) grill and is much softer on the refracted grill noise because of it. The 319 also has a hi frquency "disk" over the capsule to "improve" the sound response. There has been much bickering over whether this should be modded out, but that should be left to those who are more skilled than the beginner as a $200 paperweight tends to make one mad. I do think the original poster on the thread should look for a pre-amp will all the trimmings and versitilaty. You really can't go wrong laying out the money for a good pre-amp especially when you can dial in the resistance, gate/limit line signal, and warm and cool the sound. Your computer card (I have the EX platinum 2) will be useful to a point, but if you are looking for clean-- go to your local store and listen with your voice coming through it. The stores are made for that. Just tell them you want to lay some quick tracks and compare the MK319 (my choice for studio) utilizing different pre-amp with different features. Besides longevity proof, your own ear is the only thing you can really trust when buying equipment (that and good long warrantees). As for the 57, 58 controversy; you can get any mic to pic up better when you phantom it, but then you're not really utilizing it for it's designed purpose. The 57 is great for micing amps and for delivering raw vocals (hence why the Punks love it), but the 58 is the industry standard for a reason. It has a great pic up for direct vocals and damps everything else down a tad to prevent onstage monitor feedback (for those of us mortals who cannot afford Private listening devices). The question is, are you going to be using this mic only for your room studio or are you going to be traveling with it and utilizing it on stage (USE THE SHURE'S if on stage is the case). If it is a dedicated webcast or studio mic then by all means go with the Oktava MK319.
 
shaverbgod said:
first off the 319 has a relieved (rounded) grill and is much softer on the refracted grill noise because of it. The 319 also has a hi frquency "disk" over the capsule to "improve" the sound response. There has been much bickering over whether this should be modded out, but that should be left to those who are more skilled than the beginner as a $200 paperweight tends to make one mad. I do think the original poster on the thread should look for a pre-amp will all the trimmings and versitilaty. You really can't go wrong laying out the money for a good pre-amp especially when you can dial in the resistance, gate/limit line signal, and warm and cool the sound. Your computer card (I have the EX platinum 2) will be useful to a point, but if you are looking for clean-- go to your local store and listen with your voice coming through it. The stores are made for that. Just tell them you want to lay some quick tracks and compare the MK319 (my choice for studio) utilizing different pre-amp with different features. Besides longevity proof, your own ear is the only thing you can really trust when buying equipment (that and good long warrantees). As for the 57, 58 controversy; you can get any mic to pic up better when you phantom it, but then you're not really utilizing it for it's designed purpose. The 57 is great for micing amps and for delivering raw vocals (hence why the Punks love it), but the 58 is the industry standard for a reason. It has a great pic up for direct vocals and damps everything else down a tad to prevent onstage monitor feedback (for those of us mortals who cannot afford Private listening devices). The question is, are you going to be using this mic only for your room studio or are you going to be traveling with it and utilizing it on stage (USE THE SHURE'S if on stage is the case). If it is a dedicated webcast or studio mic then by all means go with the Oktava MK319.


oh wow! so like this is the first time we have had an in depth talk about all this! man i wonder if a 58 is really any good for vocals? i mean i don't want to buy something unless its good and i can get good sound out of it right......

yeah ummmmm but what about the mic i saw that Samson is making? it looks like the same thing.... oh yeah i don't have a pre yet all i gots is a cracked copy of cubase SX3 and sound blaster Live 16 card.... will i be able to make pro recordings for another $100? my band wants to get a records deal but we suck lol


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shaverbgod said:
first off...

Do you realize that, on your very first post to this newsgroup, you've responded to a post that is 3 1/2 years old?
 
Thumbs up on the 319, cheapest mic I own and yet gets lots of usage. I'll never get rid of mine. I have a pair of 57's, and they're staples for a lot of things, but I'd probably never track vox through one. You never know what weird combination of vocalist/mic/preamp is gonna be just right, but the odds get pretty low with a 57.
There's a current thread on the Tube MP. I happen to own a nice one, very quiet, colored but usable sound. But there's an alarming number of people who claim their's is noisy and sounds like crap, so I'm hesitant to recommend them anymore. I do highly recommend the M-Audio DMP-3, a stereo pre that is pretty universally regarded as a REAL preamp for something like $179.00, a great value! I know it's out of your targeted budget, but if you can search the sofa for some extra coins, it's a sure bet. I like mine a lot.

-RD
 
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