chrisharris
King of Bling
So is it okay for me to ask an incredibly long and boring question now? I sure hope so. Here goes.
Lately, I've been running into a recurrent problem that only seems to happen in CEP. Say I'm in the middle of a marathon recording session, where I've recorded a billion takes that I've deleted out of the multitrack, and I somehow recorded enough decent material to actually cobble together an entire "take" of a particular instrument that I hate (the bass)...I mean, it's practically one note at a time with me and the bass, so I have all these pieces over all kinds of different tracks with names like "TRACK 3 (15)," lol. Obviously, only a moron would save all of these pieces as pieces, so I go to mix them down into a track that will eventually resemble something that sucks, but that will at least have an identifiable name...like "BASS-DRY TRACK 1".
I like the feature that allows you to mixdown all the pieces onto an empty track in the multisession, b/c that way, it's automaticaly lined up exactly with the recorded pieces, which I immediately delete as soon as I've mixed them down into a track. Then I just lock the track in place, double click on it to bring it into the editor, then I "SAVE AS BASS-DRY TRACK 1"
*whew*...got it saved.
...then I go back into the multitrack session where the file is locked into place and correctly named and do "close all non-session files", and hit "no to all" when it asks me if I want to save any of the files that I've already mixed into a magical bass track. At this point, I typically go ahead and close the session and reopen it before moving onto the next thing b/c it flushes the temp files and clears up a lot of hard drive space. I don't know why this is required, actually,, or why it works, b/c it seems to me that once I've deleted AND CLOSED all those bits and pieces that have become the bass track, that should flush the temp files, but for some reason, closing the whole session is required in order to get all of my "real" unused hard drive space back.
**I will eventually have a point...stay with me.**
Well, when I had a smaller drive, I would sometimes have to delete and close all those bits and pieces BEFORE I could save the mixdown file. I got used to doing this on my old machine, and eventually I preferred deleting those files out of the session right after mixing them down (deleting the bits and pieces as soon as I see that I've successfully gotten them into "MIXDOWN 1.") b/c they're already highlighted, and this way, I'm sure not to accidentally delete some "bit or piece" that was NOT mixed as a result of me not seeing it and highlighting it...so hitting "delete" clears out everything that was mixed down, and exposes anything that I just hadn't seen before that SHOULD be in that mixdown...so I can "undo" the delete I just did and do another mixdown that includes ALL of the bits and pieces, and ditch mixdown 1. Only after I see that hitting the "delete" button clears out everything except for the Mixdown file, then I "close all non- session waves and save the Mixdown file as whatever it is...BASS.
THE POINT AND MY QUESTION ARE COMING UP NOW, SO YOU CAN START READING AGAIN HERE:
Lately, CEP has been either misreading or incorrectly reporting how much available hard drive space I have so that even when I delete and close all the UNSAVED bits and pieces, while the reported drive space (the number in the lower right hand side of the screen) will increase by as much as a GB (to reflect all those closed and unsaved bits an pieces), but when I try to save the MIXDOWN file, it tells me there's not enough drive space to do it. WTF??? IT SAYS RIGHT THERE IN THIS WINDOW OF THIS PROGRAM THAT I HAVE A GB OF FREE DRIVE SPACE, AND I DO, DAMMIT!!!
Okay, so it's a software glitch; I know this, and I also know that closing the session and just restarting CEP will clear out whatever demons are making part of the program tell me that I have a GB of drive space available, and the other part tell me that I can't save a 50MB Bass Track that I spent about a billion hours on. Problem is, you can't close CEP and restart it without saving that "mixdown" file or (the scary part) answering "NO" to whether you want to save Mixdown file. I see that window pop up, and I'm like screaming at my computer, "FUCK YES I WANNA' SAVE IT...YOU BASTARD!!!! BUT YOU WON'T LET ME!!!"
The first time it happened, I decided to just leave my computer on and CEP open forever; that soon became impractical, so I contemplated just unplugging my computer to crash the session and pray to God that it would reload the unsaved MIXDOWN file but would let me save it - this is the kind of solution that I rarely see offered in those handy "HELP" files of CEP, so I had my doubts as to its efficacy and ended up having to save the bass track as a freaking mp3 just so I could close the program and have SOMETHING left. All the care to work in "32" bit on everything, and then I ended up having to lose 90% of the audio information.
And it wasn't a bass track, lol...it was 7 tracks of vocals and backup vocals, including one track by another person who lives 400 miles away from me...lol.
Anybody else ever run into this problem? Some of the discrepencies have been HUGE, like 5GB reported space left, and then I couldn't save anything over 4MB.
Yes, I've defragged the drive. The drive itself is physically fine, and the misreporting only happens in CEP. I do a lot of animated graphics that take up even more drive space than audio, and I've never had a problem.
And I'm WAAAAY beyond the little "free up space in temporary files" option...I do that automatically by habit... but it wouldn't help anyway...the program TELLS me I have 4GB left, but won't let me use it.
Okay, so that's my long-winded post, and I bet this never happens to anybody else anyway, and the first person who tells me to get a bigger hard drive or a newer computer can read my response to Dobro in his thread and kiss my ass, lol.
HUGS TO ALL, AND TO ALL A GOOD...well, whatever.
Lately, I've been running into a recurrent problem that only seems to happen in CEP. Say I'm in the middle of a marathon recording session, where I've recorded a billion takes that I've deleted out of the multitrack, and I somehow recorded enough decent material to actually cobble together an entire "take" of a particular instrument that I hate (the bass)...I mean, it's practically one note at a time with me and the bass, so I have all these pieces over all kinds of different tracks with names like "TRACK 3 (15)," lol. Obviously, only a moron would save all of these pieces as pieces, so I go to mix them down into a track that will eventually resemble something that sucks, but that will at least have an identifiable name...like "BASS-DRY TRACK 1".
I like the feature that allows you to mixdown all the pieces onto an empty track in the multisession, b/c that way, it's automaticaly lined up exactly with the recorded pieces, which I immediately delete as soon as I've mixed them down into a track. Then I just lock the track in place, double click on it to bring it into the editor, then I "SAVE AS BASS-DRY TRACK 1"
*whew*...got it saved.
...then I go back into the multitrack session where the file is locked into place and correctly named and do "close all non-session files", and hit "no to all" when it asks me if I want to save any of the files that I've already mixed into a magical bass track. At this point, I typically go ahead and close the session and reopen it before moving onto the next thing b/c it flushes the temp files and clears up a lot of hard drive space. I don't know why this is required, actually,, or why it works, b/c it seems to me that once I've deleted AND CLOSED all those bits and pieces that have become the bass track, that should flush the temp files, but for some reason, closing the whole session is required in order to get all of my "real" unused hard drive space back.
**I will eventually have a point...stay with me.**
Well, when I had a smaller drive, I would sometimes have to delete and close all those bits and pieces BEFORE I could save the mixdown file. I got used to doing this on my old machine, and eventually I preferred deleting those files out of the session right after mixing them down (deleting the bits and pieces as soon as I see that I've successfully gotten them into "MIXDOWN 1.") b/c they're already highlighted, and this way, I'm sure not to accidentally delete some "bit or piece" that was NOT mixed as a result of me not seeing it and highlighting it...so hitting "delete" clears out everything that was mixed down, and exposes anything that I just hadn't seen before that SHOULD be in that mixdown...so I can "undo" the delete I just did and do another mixdown that includes ALL of the bits and pieces, and ditch mixdown 1. Only after I see that hitting the "delete" button clears out everything except for the Mixdown file, then I "close all non- session waves and save the Mixdown file as whatever it is...BASS.
THE POINT AND MY QUESTION ARE COMING UP NOW, SO YOU CAN START READING AGAIN HERE:
Lately, CEP has been either misreading or incorrectly reporting how much available hard drive space I have so that even when I delete and close all the UNSAVED bits and pieces, while the reported drive space (the number in the lower right hand side of the screen) will increase by as much as a GB (to reflect all those closed and unsaved bits an pieces), but when I try to save the MIXDOWN file, it tells me there's not enough drive space to do it. WTF??? IT SAYS RIGHT THERE IN THIS WINDOW OF THIS PROGRAM THAT I HAVE A GB OF FREE DRIVE SPACE, AND I DO, DAMMIT!!!
Okay, so it's a software glitch; I know this, and I also know that closing the session and just restarting CEP will clear out whatever demons are making part of the program tell me that I have a GB of drive space available, and the other part tell me that I can't save a 50MB Bass Track that I spent about a billion hours on. Problem is, you can't close CEP and restart it without saving that "mixdown" file or (the scary part) answering "NO" to whether you want to save Mixdown file. I see that window pop up, and I'm like screaming at my computer, "FUCK YES I WANNA' SAVE IT...YOU BASTARD!!!! BUT YOU WON'T LET ME!!!"
The first time it happened, I decided to just leave my computer on and CEP open forever; that soon became impractical, so I contemplated just unplugging my computer to crash the session and pray to God that it would reload the unsaved MIXDOWN file but would let me save it - this is the kind of solution that I rarely see offered in those handy "HELP" files of CEP, so I had my doubts as to its efficacy and ended up having to save the bass track as a freaking mp3 just so I could close the program and have SOMETHING left. All the care to work in "32" bit on everything, and then I ended up having to lose 90% of the audio information.
And it wasn't a bass track, lol...it was 7 tracks of vocals and backup vocals, including one track by another person who lives 400 miles away from me...lol.
Anybody else ever run into this problem? Some of the discrepencies have been HUGE, like 5GB reported space left, and then I couldn't save anything over 4MB.
Yes, I've defragged the drive. The drive itself is physically fine, and the misreporting only happens in CEP. I do a lot of animated graphics that take up even more drive space than audio, and I've never had a problem.
And I'm WAAAAY beyond the little "free up space in temporary files" option...I do that automatically by habit... but it wouldn't help anyway...the program TELLS me I have 4GB left, but won't let me use it.
Okay, so that's my long-winded post, and I bet this never happens to anybody else anyway, and the first person who tells me to get a bigger hard drive or a newer computer can read my response to Dobro in his thread and kiss my ass, lol.
HUGS TO ALL, AND TO ALL A GOOD...well, whatever.
