Objective means to determine noise floor on recordings?

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Is there an objective means of determining the noise floor of a given track? I'd imagine one can look at meters, but I'm wondering if there's a plugin that provides a more accurate and quantifiable means.
 
Normally you'd load it into an editor and find the peak then find the silence - subtract one from the other and you're done. No need for a plug-in - virtually every editor has these kinds of features built in, as do many of the DAWs. Other ways are to normalise the entire track to 0dB, then find the noise, and read off the direct figure as dB below 0. Or even take that noise sample and normalise it, if your DAW/editor gives a reading of the amplitude increase - if it has to increase is by 60dB to get to 0 - same end result.

The problem with automating it is that leaves you to make judgements on what is being measured. I've done this myself where the maximum level the DAW sees includes a little glitch somewhere that gives one of those one or two sample spikes that often you don't hear. I suppose technically, the range produced would be made to be greater than it really is, based on the real music content. I'm talking about those rare tracks that when you normalise them, the waveform still looks low, and if you track it down it's a very. very short transient. If you then reduce or remove that, normalisation then increases the whole thing in level. Trouble is sometimes that's then too late to cure the rise in the noise floor which is fixed. Can of worms. Opened.
 
There are great plug-ins that do a lot of back ground noise removal etc. You can retain the settings on one track to use on all of your others that you produce in the same way. But I have noticed this isnt ideal because the levels of noise removal need tweaking for each individual track.

One of the best audio treatments is Izotope RX. It is expensive and you can do lots with it. It may be cheaper and better to remove or treat the offending noise you want to remove/contain.
 
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Thanks for the reply Ed. What's your thoughts on Izotope RX9 Elements vs Standard? Do you think Elements is sufficient for most hum and hiss, or are there features of Standard that are better for those things?
 
Well I purchased the Elements but the next day the Standard came on sale with an upgrade very cheap. So I purchased it. I think it gives you a lot more scope than what you get in Reaper. There is a lot of automated stuff that allows you to process your file in minutes.

Saying that background noise can be taken out in Reaper or most good editors I think. The trick appears to be not to try and take it all out in one go. Two or three passes appears to be better. But then try not to record the background noise in the first place is the ideal answer.
 
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