Nooo recorded over my drum track :(

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Ok so I'm pretty sure of the answer here, and I found out the hard way...when bouncing down on a Tascam 488 8 track cassette. is t possible to bounce tracks 3 and 4 onto track 3? Or does it have to be a different track than the tracks being bounced? I had no tracks left so I tried to bounce down to 3 and it erased the track 3 and just copied track 4 :( ah well...
 
how could you record a track to itself?

I'm just pointing out the logical inconsistancy here.
Actually, I'm not sure how you did that without monumental feedback warning you it was a bad idea. If you run a track to itself it's a feedback loop and normally would have had you scrambling to shut it off so I suspect that one way or another you didn't actually have track 3 going to track three.

Regardless ...... sorry you lost your tracks but this is one of the learning moments that you will have more of as you pursue this hobby.
Have fun!
 
I know, I know...what I actually wanted to do was to record 4 on top of 3, which would of worked (I think). Definitely one of those learning moments!
 
Ahhh first lost track...they grow up so fast :)



RIP Track #3 :(
 
I know, I know...what I actually wanted to do was to record 4 on top of 3, which would of worked (I think). Definitely one of those learning moments!

Nope...no can do.

The playback head comes AFTER the record head...so you can't playback a track while also recording "on top of it" from another track.

:D

Hey...been there, done that many years ago when I was first learning how to bounce tracks on a 4-track deck.
Planning your entire production/mix BEFORE you start to track anything is the key. That way you can work out in your head what tracks are going to be bounced/mixed with other tracks, and then record each in the correct sequence so you don't "paint yourself into a corner"... :)
With 8 tracks...you should be able to get a pretty complex mix without a lot of bounces is you plan it out and record it well.
 
what I actually wanted to do was to record 4 on top of 3, which would of worked (I think).
It wouldn't have. Certainly not on a 488. The trick to bouncing on the 488 is to make sure you always have at least three open tracks, the two {or more} that are to be bounced and the one that all that bounced stuff ends up on. And if you're going for a stereo pair, then you'll need two tracks that the bounced stuff ends up on. Once you've only got two tracks {ie one open for the bounce and one with the stuff to be bounced} left, you're in soup. That's one of the things I love about virtual tracks. If you've only got one physical track left, you could still record on lots of virtual ones then bounce them all down to that last open track.
Actually, I'm not sure how you did that without monumental feedback warning you it was a bad idea. If you run a track to itself it's a feedback loop and normally would have had you scrambling to shut it off so I suspect that one way or another you didn't actually have track 3 going to track three.
The 488 doesn't give any kind of warning because it can't be done. If there's something on the track that one is bouncing to, it just gets erased as happened here. It's like a policeman that arrests you for breaking the speed limit even though there's nothing to tell you what the limit is.

how could you record a track to itself?
Interestingly, I've only heard of a couple of machines that can do this. Back in 2004/5 when I was looking for a digital standalone, I spent ages researching and because I needed varispeeding, came close to buying the Yamaha MD8. There, you can record on all 8 tracks and then bounce the entire 8 down to a stereo pair. The only drawback was that the two tracks that carry the pair overwrite what was on those two tracks originally so even though they are part of the bounced pair, you lose them as individual tracks which is a killer in Manilla if you don't like the bounce ! The Tascam 564 allowed you to bounce it's 4 tracks to a stereo pair, but retained the original four tracks because the bounced 4 tracks went to a new song location or something like that, so you could always redo it if you didn't like it.
In either event, the 488 has no such luxury !
 
Nope...no can do.

The playback head comes AFTER the record head...so you can't playback a track while also recording "on top of it" from another track.

On a 2-head deck you can defeat the erase head with a little electrical tape and record new audio without (completely) losing what's there. It gets ugly pretty quick.
 
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