no pauses between tracks?

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I'm working on a project and I need to have it so that the end of one track and the beginning of the next track flow into each other - in other words the sound doesn't stop but the track number changes. how can i do this? I know you can set your computer up to put no space between tracks when you burn a CD, but is there a way I can use my audio programs to set up the transition? I have protools LE and cubase SX, is there a way to do this or do I have to do it manually?
 
You *could* line them up in Cubase or what not, but you'll need a PQ editor for the burn anyway, so put the track markers in at that point.
 
What software do you use for burning? All software I've ever seen has a setting to change the silence between tracks. You can set it to zero and have all your tracks run together.
 
I've heard that if you burn your tracks as "Disc at Once" it will do just that. It would make your CD without any empty sound assuming there is no silence at the end or beginning of any track.
 
corban said:
What software do you use for burning? All software I've ever seen has a setting to change the silence between tracks. You can set it to zero and have all your tracks run together.
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I use Waveburner Pro on Mac and CD Architect on a PC.

CD architect is a good standlone program for PCs, there are also programs like Wavelab and Sequoia that support processing as well. Most consumer level software will not allow for more advanced PQ editing (placement of index, start of song, pause etc.) which is likely why you are not seeing the option in your software.

You also try CDRwin, there's a free eval version here:
http://www.goldenhawk.com/
 
export the cd as one long wav and set indexes manually in your cd burning software?
 
I use Roxio Easy CD Creator and it is a great burning program. Easy lay out and what not and the best part is it came with my computer. :D Anyways there is an option in Roxio before you burn your CD to set the "transition" between one song and the next and this is where you can start to sound like you know what you are doing. I like to put a little cross-fade between my songs because it sounds professional to me. You can adjust the amount of fade and timing and what not with it and then preview it before you settle on anything. To top it all off there is so space between the songs. Just a nice smooth transition. I'm not sure how many other buring programs have this feature but I'm guessing most would. Hope this helps you out. :)
 
I'm on my work computer now so I'll have to check when I get home. Back to work now!! :p
 
iwantmypie said:
I use Roxio Easy CD Creator and it is a great burning program. Easy lay out and what not and the best part is it came with my computer. :D Anyways there is an option in Roxio before you burn your CD to set the "transition" between one song and the next and this is where you can start to sound like you know what you are doing. I like to put a little cross-fade between my songs because it sounds professional to me. You can adjust the amount of fade and timing and what not with it and then preview it before you settle on anything. To top it all off there is so space between the songs. Just a nice smooth transition. I'm not sure how many other buring programs have this feature but I'm guessing most would. Hope this helps you out. :)
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I use Roxio also. I love the transition feature! However, since I've switched computers and to XP I've had constant problems with it. I get an error at the end of the burn and the CD's will only play in my computer and no where else.
 
kajunjeaux99

Lets say your song is 100 bars in length. What I would do is:
Record the first song on track 1 and 2, track 1 being the left and track 2 being the right. Then I would start my "Fade out" at bar 99 and fade out at 100. Then I would import the next song and start the beginning of the song at bar 99 and fade-in from bar 99 to 100. So in effect one song fades directly into the next. You can also make the "fade-in/fade out" longer or shorter by increasing or decreasing the span on your fade-in/fade-out.
I hope this is some help to you. ... Kajun Jeaux

onmoris said:
I'm working on a project and I need to have it so that the end of one track and the beginning of the next track flow into each other - in other words the sound doesn't stop but the track number changes. how can i do this? I know you can set your computer up to put no space between tracks when you burn a CD, but is there a way I can use my audio programs to set up the transition? I have protools LE and cubase SX, is there a way to do this or do I have to do it manually?
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You can use wavelab to mount the cd and burn thru there!
the last album i record i didn't have a single moment without sound, and i did all the montage on wavelab and burn the cd trhu there! Try it

Cheers

Márcio Silva

Ps : and it suports Pq editing...
 
masteringhouse said:
I use Waveburner Pro on Mac and CD Architect on a PC.

CD architect is a good standlone program for PCs, there are also programs like Wavelab and Sequoia that support processing as well. Most consumer level software will not allow for more advanced PQ editing (placement of index, start of song, pause etc.) which is likely why you are not seeing the option in your software.

You also try CDRwin, there's a free eval version here:
http://www.goldenhawk.com/
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CDRwin looks pretty good.

I've also been on the lookout for CD burning software for music and data. Right now I'm just using Windows Media Player to create music CDs but for some reason I'm unable to burn data CDs with whatever XP has built in (never detects the blank in the CDRom drive). So the software I'm looking for would have to do both.

But I didn't see my CDR device listed at GoldenHawk's website. It's only 3 or 4 years old. Do you think that could be related to the data CD problem I have? Should I take a chance on the CDRwin working okay?
 
EddieRay said:
CDRwin looks pretty good.

I've also been on the lookout for CD burning software for music and data. Right now I'm just using Windows Media Player to create music CDs but for some reason I'm unable to burn data CDs with whatever XP has built in (never detects the blank in the CDRom drive). So the software I'm looking for would have to do both.

But I didn't see my CDR device listed at GoldenHawk's website. It's only 3 or 4 years old. Do you think that could be related to the data CD problem I have? Should I take a chance on the CDRwin working okay?
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I would try the evaluation version of CDRwin before making any commitment to it. Last I tried it, the evaluation lasts indefinitely but is limited to burning at 1X.

As far as burning CD and data, are you referring to a multisession CD or just being able to burn them separately?

I usually use Roxio, Nero, or Toast for burning data CDs and Waveburner or CD Architect for music CDs. For multisession its usually Waveburner for the music portion and Toast for data.
 
masteringhouse said:
I would try the evaluation version of CDRwin before making any commitment to it. Last I tried it, the evaluation lasts indefinitely but is limited to burning at 1X.

As far as burning CD and data, are you referring to a multisession CD or just being able to burn them separately?

I usually use Roxio, Nero, or Toast for burning data CDs and Waveburner or CD Architect for music CDs. For multisession its usually Waveburner for the music portion and Toast for data.
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I meant separately. I'm unable to backup data files to CD.

BTW, is that how I would burn an mp3 CD - copy them as data files to a blank?
 
If you're just looking to burn data and MP3 CDs and want to save a few bucks, there a piece or freeware out there calle CDBurnerXP Pro that looks and operates in the same class as something like Nero and Roxio. I've been using it on one of my other systems for about 6 months now with a TDK VeloCD 48/10/24 and it has worked flawlessly. Just do a net search for it.

It'll burn basic audio CDs as well, and they have worked fine, but for your pre-master productions I'd stick with something like CD Architect or Wavelab.

G.
 
FYI: I tried the CDRWin demo. It is fully functional software but only burns at a speed of 1x. It works. However:

1. I could not find any means of setting the gaps between tracks.
2. Windows Media Player 10 would not play the burned CD. Winamp has no problem, nor do standard CD players (so far).

That is all.
 
CD Architect is an amazing program for PC's. Not only can you change whatever you want, but it gives you a grpahic representation of your CD project so you can actually drag the files to where you want. It even has basic envelope editing and trimming built into it. Wavelab also works pretty well for this stuff, but CD Architecht was designed to do just what it does:)
 
xstatic said:
CD Architect is an amazing program for PC's. Not only can you change whatever you want, but it gives you a grpahic representation of your CD project so you can actually drag the files to where you want. It even has basic envelope editing and trimming built into it. Wavelab also works pretty well for this stuff, but CD Architecht was designed to do just what it does:)
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What is "envelope editing and trimming"?

Y'know, I've been using Windows Media Player to test .wav files and burn CDs and have always had a problem playing those CDs on my portable Magnavox player in my car (plugs into cigarette lighter and cassette tape player). But the one I burned with CDRWin played with no problem. Plus I just upgraded to WMP 10.0 and it's even more difficult than ever to use. So it's time for me to move on to something more serious. Can you confirm that CD Architect allows you to set the time gap between tracks? Meanwhile I'll do some searching....
 
yeah, CD Architect pretty much does it all. you can even plug in effects on each song or the entire CD if you want to do some additional eq'ing... you can use envelopes to set levels, you can overlap songs and do cross fades, add CD test, the works... very good tool...
 
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