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TAE said:
Hey D nice work buddy... bizarre how different the two versions are The first has your vocals in the top of my head...where the soundcloud version is in my face up close.. Curious why you didn't clip the mic noise at the intro and ending.

I like em both but the soundcloud one has more clarity..
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It was recorded in a large room with louvred shutters instead of windows and the night time cricket noise was part of the recording. I decided to leave it in. The jungle was part of every song I did back then. :D
 
Love this track. Reminds me a bit of some of the stuff on the first Feist album.

Both mixes sounds great but I have a preference for the first.

It's hard to get a live guitar and voice recording to sound good so kudos. Yeah the guitar might be a bit low in the mix but it still works IMO
 
Chili said:
Oops, that is one figure-8 and one cardioid. :)

Turn the figure-8 sideways so the transducer is 90 degrees to the sound source. Put the cardioid over the figure-8 with the transducers inline and the cardioid pointing at the sound source.
Record to two separate mono tracks.
Copy the Figure-8 track then invert it.
Link the two Figure-8 tracks and balance them against the one cardioid track to get the sound you want.
Do the hoky-poky and you turn yourself around.
That's what it's all about.
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Okay, I tried that technique in the video I linked to, and the sound's good - no phase that I can hear. The downside is that you really have to be able to play well without looking at your hands, which I can't always do. When you look down to see if your fingers are still there, you lose presence on the upper vocal mic. Another problem I'm having is that although the lower mic's rejecting the vocal very well, the vocal mic is picking up the instrument a lot more than I'd like. Haven't figured that one out yet. The upper mic's supposedly got good figure 8 rejection, but it's picking up a lot of the ukelele.

I've read that figure 8/cardioid technique you described a few times, but I still can't picture it clearly. Do you know of any videos online that describe it?
 
Huh! So that's what mid/side is about! I'll have a bit of that, yeah - great big sound for sparse instrumentation.

I don't get it though - when you double the side track and flip the phase, how come it doesn't cancel when panned?
 
I think it has to do with how the sound waves hit the foil from both sides; one is out of phase with the other already. Then inverting the copy track puts both sides of the foil in-phase with each other. Maybe also when you pan it, it goes to two different channels and they won't cancel each other unless they are in the same channel. It cancels out when they are both dead center.

I haven't had as good of luck with m/s recording as the guy in the video, but I'm improving (and it's a lot of fun to experiment with. I think mic placement is ultra-critical. I started a thread a month or two ago about it. Maybe you can search for it. I believe it's under Recording Techniques.
 
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