fat_fleet
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Ha... It wasn't quite like that but that's a great image.. so I think from now on that's exactly what happened. Thanks Rob!
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Ha... It wasn't quite like that but that's a great image.. so I think from now on that's exactly what happened. Thanks Rob!
robgreen
no face
Ha... It wasn't quite like that but that's a great image.. so I think from now on that's exactly what happened. Thanks Rob!
Heh heh, I knew that's what it was like. Thanks for confirming.
Last time we had this discussion, I posted this one up:
Unfortunately the ridiculously loud bass at the end was permanently printed onto the track when I bounced the four tracks I had onto two tracks to free up the other two.
I had a dig around on my old four track this morning and found a couple that were even earlier that I'd forgotten about. It's fair to say that they're a step down even from this by comparison - if I can get them transferred from my machine later, I'll stick them up. They are proper dirty laundry
Lt. Bob
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@robgreen ...... nice .... guitar sounds pretty good ..... voice sound nice ...... good performace really .... if the vox was up more this'd be perfect.
Alritey ..... here's one from an album I did around '86 while in the throes of love-denied ...... .... all my own originals.
All done on a single 3340 4-track reel to reel and all pings are done within the one machine and then finally mixed to cassette.
I think this is probably 6th generation ( a concept that disappeared with digital) so I'm kinda proud of how semi-quiet it is.
There are 4 horns/2 guitars/bass/keyboards/vox/drumbs.
Drums are done with a Drum Drop record (Vinyl records with drum tracks .... before decent sounding drum machines).
I'm playing everything so it's one track at a time.
Alritey ..... here's one from an album I did around '86 while in the throes of love-denied ......
.... all my own originals. All done on a single 3340 4-track reel to reel and all pings are done within the one machine and then finally mixed to cassette.
I think this is probably 6th generation ( a concept that disappeared with digital) so I'm kinda proud of how semi-quiet it is.
There are 4 horns/2 guitars/bass/keyboards/vox/drumbs.
Drums are done with a Drum Drop record (Vinyl records with drum tracks .... before decent sounding drum machines).
I'm playing everything so it's one track at a time.
heatmiser
mr. green christmas
That's really cool ray. It's pretty clear and focused sounding actually. I think maybe I've heard this before on your page, but not 100% sure.
The guitar & bass immediately reminded me of LCD Soundsystem - Daft Punk is Playing at my House...have you heard that tune?
This one is fun - thanks.
heatmiser
mr. green christmas
Well done. Clearly fails the "crap" test though.
The guitars have an almost phasey sound to them...is that an effect, or...?
So, is that a Gordon Lightfoot cover? I don't recognize the tune, but the vocal sounds just like him.
chuckduffy
Well-known member
robgreen
no face
Thanks Bob - I do think every now and again that I should re-do this tune from scratch.
I had a listen to yours and the Buzzard Song in particular is terrific. Love the whole feel and performance of it - apart from the background hiss, it's spot on
I kept expecting this song to break into Cool For Cats ray. Cool new wave feel to it - Terry's voice is really suited to this style of music.
fat_fleet
Swollen Member
Definitely not in line with the "humble beginnings" theme, but it sounds great. I'm gonna tell Gordon you posted it- I hear he's a mean drunk.
Wow, cool recording Ray. I feel the mojo! I can see why the deck was tough to toss...at least you still have the recordings. One of the things I digitized yesterday was a boombox recording of one of my high school bands' practices. I'm debating whether to post it or not....besides the general looseness of the performances, the recording itself is pretty washed out from being duped a bunch, then stored for a couple decades. The biggest damage to this stuff is done just from the tapes sitting around for so long. I also found a tape of another high school band's live show that I'm afraid to listen to! I kinda regret waiting so long to do digitize all this stuff, but at least I'm doing it now.
fat_fleet
Swollen Member
Didn't faze me ......... I've had far more hits of acid than that!
Of the two I really liked Interstellar Overdrive ..... it really has the vibe and that guitar sound is really close to what was happening back then .. nice actually
Hmm...can't remember, but I'm pretty sure that ace tone was either a Squier strat or Aria Pro II into a ProCo Turbo Rat either direct into the Tascam, or into the Peavey 4-channel PA we found in the garbage and I occasionally used as a guitar amp! Ah, the old days!
very cool! the first 2 tracks sound really fucked up in a nice way
to vanquish a gost could be a soundtrack to a creepy film
Thanks man! I feel like our ideas and enthusiasm outweighed or skill and resources...but it was fun to do (if I recall correctly).
fat_fleet
Swollen Member
No '4 track' stuff for me. I used a stereo boombox with built-in mics and the stereo cassette deck in my stereo system to layer tracks.You're not gonna hear them!
Aww, why not? Potential contract issues?
chuckduffy
Well-known member
Heh heh, I knew that's what it was like. Thanks for confirming.
Last time we had this discussion, I posted this one up:
Unfortunately the ridiculously loud bass at the end was permanently printed onto the track when I bounced the four tracks I had onto two tracks to free up the other two.
I had a dig around on my old four track this morning and found a couple that were even earlier that I'd forgotten about. It's fair to say that they're a step down even from this by comparison - if I can get them transferred from my machine later, I'll stick them up. They are proper dirty laundry
I really like that melodica part, if that is what it is
fat_fleet
Swollen Member
@robgreen ...... nice .... guitar sounds pretty good ..... voice sound nice ...... good performace really .... if the vox was up more this'd be perfect.
Alritey ..... here's one from an album I did around '86 while in the throes of love-denied ......
All done on a single 3340 4-track reel to reel and all pings are done within the one machine and then finally mixed to cassette.
I think this is probably 6th generation ( a concept that disappeared with digital) so I'm kinda proud of how semi-quiet it is.
There are 4 horns/2 guitars/bass/keyboards/vox/drumbs.
Drums are done with a Drum Drop record (Vinyl records with drum tracks .... before decent sounding drum machines).
I'm playing everything so it's one track at a time.
Drum Drop record...that's a new one on me, though I remember the jam tapes you could order from guitar magazines that had totally generic drum, bass, and rhythm guitar tracks you could wank over to your heart's content. They had 'em for different "genres"- hard rock, soft rock, heavy rock... Now about these songs of yours that are allegedly 4-tracked but sound totally pro...
Yeah, this one had a lot of "pings", eh? Very dense...saxes sound super.
heatmiser
mr. green christmas
That is pretty cool rob. I've heard this before on your page, but it pales in comparison production-wise to more recent stuff. Really offers shades of things to come with the faraway vocals and the melancholy and whatnot. It's not a bad recording, but it's also a song that might benefit someday from your increased production abilities.
heatmiser
mr. green christmas
Waaaah! It's not working! I click play on the embedded playa and the counter just sits there. I scrolled ahead and nothing.
fat_fleet
Swollen Member
Unfortunately the ridiculously loud bass at the end was permanently printed onto the track when I bounced the four tracks I had onto two tracks to free up the other two.
I had a dig around on my old four track this morning and found a couple that were even earlier that I'd forgotten about. It's fair to say that they're a step down even from this by comparison - if I can get them transferred from my machine later, I'll stick them up. They are proper dirty laundry
The bass doesn't seem that overbearing to me. Pretty cool stuff Rob. This one has a kinda stark Leonard Cohenish quality while also sounding very much like an early robgreen recording! Interesting, I don't think I've heard you use this noticeable a reverb on your vocal tracks before- makes it sound kind of vintagey. Excited to hear your other, earlier stuff too- bring it on!
fat_fleet
Swollen Member
A few more from 1991-
Waltz of the Flowers-->Pinwheel
'Pinwheel' was a tune my friend Tom wrote, and we mangled Tchaikovsky's Waltz of the Flowers as an intro.
The Grind
One of mine.. vocals are pretty horrific. Not that they're any better now.
Sunshowers
And another one of Tom's. Always thought this one was really nice.
The first two were from that same RISD recording, from the board into two tracks of the Porta 03, then we did copious overdubs at home.
'Sunshowers' was recorded separately at one of our places that year...I can't remember.
Waltz of the Flowers-->Pinwheel
'Pinwheel' was a tune my friend Tom wrote, and we mangled Tchaikovsky's Waltz of the Flowers as an intro.
The Grind
One of mine.. vocals are pretty horrific. Not that they're any better now.
Sunshowers
And another one of Tom's. Always thought this one was really nice.
The first two were from that same RISD recording, from the board into two tracks of the Porta 03, then we did copious overdubs at home.
'Sunshowers' was recorded separately at one of our places that year...I can't remember.
heatmiser
mr. green christmas
Wow. That waltz got really weird really fast!
My wife heard the intro, recognized it and seemed to enjoy it. Once the vocals kicked in, it got really strange. I mean, I enjoyed it, but how the hell did you guys write this stuff? I mean, was it written, or did you just have some themes worked out and then you improvised?
Is that you playing lead? I gotta be honest...I hate that tone. It's so 2 dimensional compared to what you got later on...sounds kinda DI. The playing is pretty awesome though. I could never do that kind of stuff.
Yup, that's a real toe-tapper!
My wife heard the intro, recognized it and seemed to enjoy it. Once the vocals kicked in, it got really strange. I mean, I enjoyed it, but how the hell did you guys write this stuff? I mean, was it written, or did you just have some themes worked out and then you improvised?
Is that you playing lead? I gotta be honest...I hate that tone. It's so 2 dimensional compared to what you got later on...sounds kinda DI. The playing is pretty awesome though. I could never do that kind of stuff.
Yup, that's a real toe-tapper!
fat_fleet
Swollen Member
Yeah the tone pretty much sucks. I think it was a Squier Strat -> Turbo Rat -> weird 4-channel Peavey PA we pulled out of the garbage. I didn't have an amp at all then. Briefly, the following year, I had a really shrill solid state Marshall head, but I ditched it quick and ended up buying a Fender Power Chorus...kind of the equivalent of a Fender Frontman these days...just a bland solid state combo, but still better than the PA head!
Bobbsy
Boring Old Git
That IS Lightfoot (hence my reticence to post very much) but an early, still doing the local appearances Lightfoot. This was Red Deer Alberta.
Yup, it is phasey. TV in those days was totally mono of course so I had to patch things all over the place to get pseudo stereo.. and I had no way of monitoring my "stereo" mix at the time, just the mono broadcast one. Still, at age 20 I was happy just to have voice centre and bass/guitar left and right. I didn't realise how crap it was until I saved up and bought a hifi for home almost a year later!