Newbie questions on souncard \ mixer setup

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im new, actually havent even started home recording yet but i could really do with some tips on what to buy. I am about to sell my Boss 1180CD which i only bought a few months ago but dont use enough to warrant keeping.

What i want to do is record 2-3 analog instruments at a time. usually will be 2 guitars and vocal or guitar \ bass & vox. in future this may change and might want to start recording live acoustic drums too. i've been messing about with Cool Edit pro which is impressive but what hardware do i need with these scenarios ion mind. Please bear in mind that i am not interested in digital \ MIDI recording using keyboards etc. Was thinking that my final recording was just be mixed to a wav\mp3 and then burnt to CD but im guessing.

seen a lot of threads that talk about using the ADAT recorders, would that be the better method for recording the tracks as opposed to CDR on the PC.

My questions, what soundcard, what mixer, what other in-line devices (in between the guitar amps and the soundcard \ mixer) will i need. I already own a AKG mic with XLR connection as well for vocals.

my question may sound stupid but apolgies if it's too stupid to understand.

Appreciate any help.

Thx
Macca
 
The Event Mia is a good sound card that you can record 2 tracks at the same time with.Get it on e-bay for around $150.00
 
norm55 said:
The Event Mia is a good sound card that you can record 2 tracks at the same time with.Get it on e-bay for around $150.00
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thanks norm. cant find too much on that card in the UK. is it this card we are talking about :

"DPI Echo Mia MIDI PC Digital Audio Interface Sound Card" which came up when i searched for the Event Mia as suggested.

Thanks for taking the time.
Macca
 
read some of my other posts on bbs

how to record 48 digital audio tracks , mixdown to a stereo master...
1. get an amd computer 2ghz for around 500 bucks.
2. try powertracks from pgmusic.com talk to lots of users who like me also love this multitrack software. pg have an excellent forum.
on the newbies section of this bbs you will find several recent articles ive recently written to help folks like yourself.
go to pages 1 and 2 of the newbies section.
the echo mia is a good low noise sound card.
 
You should know that there is the current ECHO MiaMIDI and the discontinued ECHO Mia. The unit you are being referred to is the discontinued ECHO Mia.

ECHO continues, per their web site, to provide driver support for this card.
 
If you want to record 4 simultaneous inputs, the M-Audio Delta 44 will do the job. Costs $199
 
Thanks for your help guys, much appreciated. Just one further question. I want to keep the monitors that i used with my Boss 1180, they are Roland DS30A's. for those of you who dont know them, they are 24bit digital bi-amp monitors with analog and digital inputs. My question is, will any of the cards that you have mentioned plug straight into them, via analog or digital?

Still not clear on the best way correct way to save the work, is it just to the pc or external DAT drives etc?

Just one other thing - you will tell im novice by this question im sure :-). The Echo MiaMIDI says it only has 2 analog inputs, does this mean as per my questions earlier that in future there is no way apart from adding a mixer pre-sound card that i could record anything more than 2 instruments simultaneously? apologies for the questions!

thanks again for your help!

Macca
 
you save your work to a hard drive. i save to two harddrives in case one goes bad.
if 2 inputs not enough look at an rme or lynx sound solution. lots of inputs plus great convertors. but more money.
you would just send your mix out of two outputs to your powered monitors.
 
cr1mson said:
My question is, will any of the cards that you have mentioned plug straight into them, via analog or digital?


Just one other thing - you will tell im novice by this question im sure :-). The Echo MiaMIDI says it only has 2 analog inputs, does this mean as per my questions earlier that in future there is no way apart from adding a mixer pre-sound card that i could record anything more than 2 instruments simultaneously? apologies for the questions!

thanks again for your help!

Macca
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Macca
The Delta 44 has 4 analog outs. 2 for your monitors, the other 2 to aux back to your mixer, whatever....

2 analog inputs means you can record to 2 seperate tracks simultaneously. If you want to record a drum kit, you could put 4 mics on the kit, plug them into a mixer and then input into a single channel soundblaster. But they'll all end up on the same track so your mixing options are limited.

With the Delta 44, you can have 4 outputs from the mixer into 4 seperate inputs and so onto 4 tracks on your PC. Mucho mixing possibilities
 
Bulls Hit said:
Macca
The Delta 44 has 4 analog outs. 2 for your monitors, the other 2 to aux back to your mixer, whatever....

2 analog inputs means you can record to 2 seperate tracks simultaneously. If you want to record a drum kit, you could put 4 mics on the kit, plug them into a mixer and then input into a single channel soundblaster. But they'll all end up on the same track so your mixing options are limited.

With the Delta 44, you can have 4 outputs from the mixer into 4 seperate inputs and so onto 4 tracks on your PC. Mucho mixing possibilities
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Thanks dude

that was what i was starting to think i would have to do. Well that seems to be me much more clued up now on what i need to do and how to do it. Suggest a decent but cheap mixer anyone?

STILL really appreciate this kinda priceless help!

Macca
 
crimson

take a read at various articles ive posted in the newbies section
overr the past week. i think you will find them usefull.
as to a cheap mixer. 99 bucks , yamaha mg on the net.
 
Agreed the Yamaha MG series are excellent value.
That $99 mixer manning refers to is the MG10/2 which is really only a 2 output channel mixer. For your purposes the MG12/4 would suit better -4 outputs and it's a lot more flexible - $199
 
bh

bh correct me if i'm wrong. couldnt he go out the mic pre inserts on the 99 dollar yam mixer ?
 
Yes he could certainly do that, but it does limit flexibility if the inserts were required for inserting effects.

Heh maybe I'm just trying to justify my decision to buy the 12/4. I went to the store intending to get the 10/2, but the salesman talked me into the 12/4. Nice mixer tho'
 
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