newbie needs help!

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ok, ive found out from the drums and percussion part of the forum that if you have a mixing desk with 16 outputs or somethin, an input module can be used to be able to input all 16 outputs of the desk seperatley into the computer for manipulation with software. from the input module, there can be a cable connecting it to a card installed into the computer. at least, i think this is right. im guessing this cable transfers the information form the input module to the software seperatley, keeping each track is individual? now this is an ideal iten of equpiment for my planned setup, by i am thin of knowledge on where to find and what makes a good audio input module. corrections on any theorys i have wrong and websites/makes of input modules for me to do research would be great!

Steve
 
Steve,
yes to record drums you need a mixer that can output as many tracks as you want to record simultaneously. You need to decide how many tracks you need.

You then need a soundcard capable of handling that many inputs.

Have a look at the M-Audio Delta 1010lt. It can handle 8 inputs. It's around $280.
Another one to check out is the Delta 44 with 4 inputs, for $200.

You can get a Yamaha MG12/4 mixer for $200.

You can record drums successfully using 3 mics - snare, kick & overhead. It can be better to start off simple, then add tom mics etc once you get more experienced at recording & mixing
 
Thanks BH, I hear you completley. Maybe a simple set up is the best thing for me. Although, i have experience of recording. Ive just never set one up before. My friend owns an digital 8-track, and has it hooked up to his computer. He mainly uses samples for drum beats, so the problem of more than 2 inputs simaltaneously has never been a problem to him. But, me being a drummer, I want to be able to record my grooves rather than using samples, although samples can be great to mess around with! So its not so much i have no knowledge what-so-ever on recording (not that i have stacks of it either!) Its more a case of i just need more understanding on how the systems are set up and what tools are required and which different makes would be suitable for my needs. Thanks alot for your help though! Any more input from other users would be great too!
Steve
 
still using the Delta 44 you could use the 4 mic technique (sp?) kick, snare, stereo overheads

I use a delta 1010 and 2 delta 410s. The 410s are strictly for routing back to the desk on mixdown. I record something like this

on the delta 1010 Kick, Snare, Rack tom, Floor tom, stereo overheads, hihat(sometimes), Bass. If I get a good enough hihat sound in the overheads I'll use the spare channel for the rythm guitar or a scratch vocal just to keep the place during overdubs

I hear good things about the E-mu cards too on the price v quantity front
 
LemonTree said:
still using the Delta 44 you could use the 4 mic technique (sp?) kick, snare, stereo overheads

I use a delta 1010 and 2 delta 410s. The 410s are strictly for routing back to the desk on mixdown. I record something like this

on the delta 1010 Kick, Snare, Rack tom, Floor tom, stereo overheads, hihat(sometimes), Bass. If I get a good enough hihat sound in the overheads I'll use the spare channel for the rythm guitar or a scratch vocal just to keep the place during overdubs

I hear good things about the E-mu cards too on the price v quantity front
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you can use more than on sound card in one computer, allowing you to have more inputs? this would be very useful!
 
I use the 4 mic technique with my delta1010lt and the results are fine. As LemonTree said you could do the same with Delta 44, but you maybe need more ins for extra players, I mean, bass & guitar. Or in the near future you may want to mic the toms, hi hats, room mics, who knows. Using M-Audio products you can hook up more than one soundcard, that´s amazing and very helpful.
 
That sounds awesome. So with M-Audio you can have mnore than one soundcard installed...presumably the same type by M-Audio, to enable you to have more inputs? This would be good because it means i can start off with having as many imputs as i do microphones, say 4, and then if i get more microphones, more inputs can be gained! Are you sure that this method of having more than one soundcard works as well, if better, than one of these input modules ive been trying to research?
 
M-Audio supports up to 4 cards in the one system....just make sure it's one hell of a system tho
 
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