New vocal mic

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I get this vibe if I went with a ribbon mic, I'd need to get one that uses phantom power. I want to mention that it will only be used for vocals, and maybe once or twice in it's life for trumpets. My drum mics and guitar and bass mics are amazing, (other than my acoustic guitar mic, which is the C-1 as well) so those aren't a problem. Does anyone here use a ribbon or have a recording that they themselves have done with the ribbon?
 
i'm all for ribbons... but for a bit more...(@$1k) a truely astounding mic i think is the mojave200 (built by davaid royer) LDC/tube... smooth as silk....
definately on my lust list...
 
flatfinger said:
If you were to go with say a SM7 or a ribbon, keep in mind that you will need some gain on tap to record softer stuff; The figure I keep seeing is at least 60 db. That is one of the advantages of one of those phantom powerd ribbons, they have a head amp in them. Can anyone comment on the karma k-6???? :confused:
The K-6 doesn't put out as much signal as my condensers, but I haven't had any problems with getting decent levels for recording. I haven't had to use specialized preamps for recording them for example.
andycerrone said:
I get this vibe if I went with a ribbon mic, I'd need to get one that uses phantom power. I want to mention that it will only be used for vocals, and maybe once or twice in it's life for trumpets. My drum mics and guitar and bass mics are amazing, (other than my acoustic guitar mic, which is the C-1 as well) so those aren't a problem. Does anyone here use a ribbon or have a recording that they themselves have done with the ribbon?
PM me your email address and I'll send you some things when I get a chance. Ribbons sound great on acoustic guitar and electric guitar amps (RE's often make a composite sound out of a ribbon and a dynamic or condenser).

(Edit: Sold stuff, no longer necessary :D
 
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Mojave (built by David Royer)......Yeaaahhhh!!! Mmmm-hmmmm! Ranks right up there with french fried pataters! Gooooood Stuff! Love to have one!
 
ribbon mics tend to not have a lot of high end...this is why they sound so damn good on guitar cabs, and have such a smooth, sometimes even somewhat dark tone to them
 
Opinions on the Neumann TLM103? If I could get it for around 600?
 
andycerrone said:
Opinions on the Neumann TLM103? If I could get it for around 600?
I would do some Google searches on that before buying. I've only ever read negative things about that particular mic, but I've never used one.
 
kojdogg said:
I would do some Google searches on that before buying. I've only ever read negative things about that particular mic, but I've never used one.

A lot of the negative remarks are either in comparison to other Neumanns or high-end mics. For $600, I would think it would be worth a try, if you can try it out first.
 
mshilarious said:
A lot of the negative remarks are either in comparison to other Neumanns or high-end mics. For $600, I would think it would be worth a try, if you can try it out first.
Very good point. :o
 
jaykeMURD said:
If you experience a lot of "airy" or "breathy" singers, a quality dynamic mic may be best suited. RE-20, SM7, SE2200; to name a few.

+1 on the RE20, SM7.

I would also add in the AKG 414.

All pretty much must have mics. I have screwed with a bunch of chinese LDC mics and they really do not come anywhere close to the mics listed above.
 
jdier said:
+1 on the RE20, SM7.

I would also add in the AKG 414.

All pretty much must have mics. I have screwed with a bunch of chinese LDC mics and they really do not come anywhere close to the mics listed above.


Well I'd love to have them all, but unfortunately I can't. So which would be the best for my situation? I hate going to guitar center to try them out, and I'm only home for a couple days at a time, so it's kind of hard for me to give them a test run.
 
andycerrone said:
Well I'd love to have them all, but unfortunately I can't. So which would be the best for my situation? I hate going to guitar center to try them out, and I'm only home for a couple days at a time, so it's kind of hard for me to give them a test run.

What's best for your situation is dependent on so many different things and as much as I hate guitar center too, actually testing something out is the best way to get a sense of it. If you can go and listen to it on as close of a system to what you're actually using as possible, that will give you a good idea about how it sounds (e.g. if you track a lot through headphones, bring them with you).
I find it somewhat helpful to look at frequency plots for mics-- they are often doctored, but looking at whatever's published for your C-1 versus what is published for other mics you're looking at should give you a decent idea of how they will at least compare.
If you're going to spend $600, you'll probably get a significant upgrade over what you're using. If you do due dilligence/research you should avoid getting something absolutely awful. I'd check published reviews (take them with a grain of salt-- especially if you see the mic being reviewed on a full page advertisement in the same mag!) and message board comments.
Also, having gone from relatively budget-level mics and pres (Rode NT1000 through ART TPS, or Behri's) to decent intermediate mics and pres (Blue Blueberry, Karma mics through Universal Audio, Chameleon Labs 7602, Safe Sound P1 and Onyx Pres) over the last year, don't leave the pre out of the equation.
 
kojdogg said:
What's best for your situation is dependent on so many different things and as much as I hate guitar center too, actually testing something out is the best way to get a sense of it. If you can go and listen to it on as close of a system to what you're actually using as possible, that will give you a good idea about how it sounds (e.g. if you track a lot through headphones, bring them with you).
I find it somewhat helpful to look at frequency plots for mics-- they are often doctored, but looking at whatever's published for your C-1 versus what is published for other mics you're looking at should give you a decent idea of how they will at least compare.
If you're going to spend $600, you'll probably get a significant upgrade over what you're using. If you do due dilligence/research you should avoid getting something absolutely awful. I'd check published reviews (take them with a grain of salt-- especially if you see the mic being reviewed on a full page advertisement in the same mag!) and message board comments.
Also, having gone from relatively budget-level mics and pres (Rode NT1000 through ART TPS, or Behri's) to decent intermediate mics and pres (Blue Blueberry, Karma mics through Universal Audio, Chameleon Labs 7602, Safe Sound P1 and Onyx Pres) over the last year, don't leave the pre out of the equation.

My Pre's comparitively suck, I'll admit, but I know I can't afford to upgrade my Pre and my mic, so one will have to wait. My pre's right now are a VTB-1, the pre's in my Mackie mixer, and a Presonus Blue tube. For me to try to match a mic with one of my pre's doesn't really matter because it should be upgraded by next summer when I can get working again. So pretty much, if you know a combo that would be really good with that budget for the mic and possibly around there for a pre, that'd be good too. I'll try to get some time to get to GC, but I do rely on reviews a lot for my equipment, and so far, they've been pretty accurate, all in all.
 
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