new to this forum..PLEASE HELP! :)

[hairy_butt]

hi there people.im from the uk,nice to meet u all.i actually feel real small cos u all sound like music geniuses(i wish i was!) but hey,thas good cos u can help me,right? ahem ahem
k,well ive got 2.5 grand (thas approx 3.5 thousand dollars,maybe close to 4) to spend on a home studio.
most my sound will be coming from the computer and samples(most of my work will be sampling,remixing,and audio editing) but i will be adding vocals and some of my own instruments from time to time.
before i tell u the system im being sold,jus like to ask(sorry im real new to music,etc)but like i wish to extract b-lines,or vocals or a sample from songs,for e.g without the excess baggage.basically,i want to be able to get the vocals from an old song,and take away ALL sounds so im left with an acapella.in the same way i wish to extract a b-line or a sample from a song i.e basically the ability to pick and choose what i want from a song and use it for my own song.ive been adviced to buy melodyn,or wavelab?which do u think is better?
the setup im being offered is,
intel pent 4 2ghz pc
512 mbram
17inch monitor
80gb hd
AND
a sound module(cant rmember the model)
a keyboard(roland 61 key i beleive)
cubase (newest version)
wavelab or melodyn(for audio editing)
sampler software(i think the halium by cubase)
a mic
please give me any advice.ive spend agezzz saving for this,and i dont want to rush into a raw deal and up with nothing but a hairy ass. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE help o wonderful musicians people u..
p.s is this equipment more than good enough to make a quality cd thats quality enough to sell in the shops?i.e is this a good,quality home studio? thanx people. much appreciated

 

[erichenryus]

oh boy. you've got 4 grand US to blow!!!!? you can do an awful lot with that kind of budget these dayz!

don't forget to leave room for monitors! you didn't mention them and they are critical to your rig!

so make sure your pentium is up to speed with 533 FSB and using DDR (preferrably DDR333 at this point).

make sure the hard drive is ATA100 and 7200 RPM. i don't know how to lift just vocal content from audio. i don't really know how to 'lift' anything but someone around here i'm sure does.

the soundcard is also a critical element.

now is this a used system that someone is selling you, cause what you listed doesn't sound like something i'd pay 4 grand for.

anyway, need to know more. what kind of ram? DDR? what is the motherboard, very important to have an intel chipset in that thing to avoid compatibility issues. what speed hard drive? what kind of sound module? what sound card? how are you going to monitor?

really important question.....what kind of mic....whole separate forum for that kind of talk.

 

[Stealthtech]

I think you are going to have a difficult time extracting only certain tracks from any recorded material. The most you can find is some music that is stripped of vocals, but not individual tracks.

 

[pglewis]

With songs that are already mixed, someone around here a while back made a great analogy: it's like putting red, green, and blue sand into one container and mixing them all up. Once they're mixed, you can't easily extract just the blue sand. I wish I remembered who made that analogy so I could give 'em credit.

Sometimes you can do a decent job of removing vocals by reversing the phase of just one channel of a stereo recording. The reason this works is that this approach will cancel out anything in the center of the mix. Of course, that means everything in the center channel will get cancelled out. Due to most modern mixing techniques, this will sometimes work pretty well for vocals, but it's not ideal.

Better to just pick up a few good sample CDs as your bass and drum sources, and you should be able to afford it with your budget.

 

[hairy_butt]

okay,cos i was told that the melodyn or wavelab audio editors are designed to take away individual tracks.and its meant to be a kinda new thing,hence it will fetch me back 600 pounds which is nearly one thousand u.s dollars. he said he can do it.and i did beleive him.so ur saying its not true? if so,then i guess its not worth it.that price is for the software alone(excluding cubase,etc)
thanks!

 

[pglewis]

I haven't heard of nor do I know anything about melodyn, but Wavelab is a wonderful audio editor. It is a fantastic tool to have, but it will not take away individual tracks from pre-mixed material.

You are going to get the most out of your money if you know why you're getting each of the things you purchase and not just because someone says you'll need them. This takes a little work on your part, but you're less likely to be disappointed later when you go to work on your music.

I would still suggest you get a good audio editor like Wavelab, Sonic Foundry's Sound Forge, or Cool Edit Pro; but you need to be realistic about what they can and can't do. You might try a search here on "audio editor" and if that doesn't give you enough answers, try posting a new thread with "audio editor questions" as the title (it's always best to use a good title for the thread so people know what your questions are about... there is a lot of traffic here and "I have questions" or "new to this forum please help" doesn't tell us much when we're scanning through all the threads).