New song, I welcome all feedback!!!

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Expertly done. One of the best I've heard on this site. Well performed. Drums sound REALLY good to my ear. Fake or real? Nice guitar playing and tone. Synth organ sounds great. The only thing I would change is the vocals. They are just a touch too quiet. Bump 'em up a half notch and you've got a winner.
 
Yeah, nice performance, especially the vocals. Good guitar playing too. Enjoyed listening. I agree with GZ's comment on bringing the vocals up, but more than just a little. Put em out front where they belong.

Okay, the big problem is with the arrangement. Basically the same drum and bass pattern all the way through. There's no change until 4:15 and then it is a slight change. So, it gets kind of boring after about 3 minutes. You're kind of waiting and waiting for something to happen. Then at 4:15, it does for a few bars and goes back to the same pattern under the guitar solo.

Thnaks for sharing, enjoyed the song.
 
The guitar sounds really really good. The organ is a nice touch as well. I think the performance overall is really enjoyable. You have a great voice I especially like the rougher more soulful parts. This sound reminds me of The Band a bit. Keep it up! The only suggestion I have is that a great change in the drums at 4:15 would be awesome. If they went from simple to more complex, instead of a slight change. Good job buddy!
 
guitar zero said:
Expertly done. One of the best I've heard on this site. Well performed. Drums sound REALLY good to my ear. Fake or real? Nice guitar playing and tone. Synth organ sounds great. The only thing I would change is the vocals. They are just a touch too quiet. Bump 'em up a half notch and you've got a winner.
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Thank you, I am really happy you dug the song.
 
Chili said:
Yeah, nice performance, especially the vocals. Good guitar playing too. Enjoyed listening. I agree with GZ's comment on bringing the vocals up, but more than just a little. Put em out front where they belong.

Okay, the big problem is with the arrangement. Basically the same drum and bass pattern all the way through. There's no change until 4:15 and then it is a slight change. So, it gets kind of boring after about 3 minutes. You're kind of waiting and waiting for something to happen. Then at 4:15, it does for a few bars and goes back to the same pattern under the guitar solo.

Thnaks for sharing, enjoyed the song.
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Thank you, I appreciate the kind words. I agree with you on the drums and bass, I have got to get that fixed. Again thank you.
 
DreadfulJake said:
The guitar sounds really really good. The organ is a nice touch as well. I think the performance overall is really enjoyable. You have a great voice I especially like the rougher more soulful parts. This sound reminds me of The Band a bit. Keep it up! The only suggestion I have is that a great change in the drums at 4:15 would be awesome. If they went from simple to more complex, instead of a slight change. Good job buddy!
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Thank you, and i think you are correct in your observation on the drums. Thank you for the response, I appreciate it.
 
I can smell the smoke, the beer and the depression!!! :drunk: That's nice blues! Please give me a short recipe: It must be a Strat + amp? plug-in? and the organ sound...patch?

My only wish would be a real climax (other than the great lead :D ) I felt the need for a poignant lyric belted out while the rest of the band tries to keep up - a little out of control - then the drums, tryin' to clean up with a power fill, pull it all back down again :cool:
 
maximusbs said:
I can smell the smoke, the beer and the depression!!! :drunk: That's nice blues! Please give me a short recipe: It must be a Strat + amp? plug-in? and the organ sound...patch?

My only wish would be a real climax (other than the great lead :D ) I felt the need for a poignant lyric belted out while the rest of the band tries to keep up - a little out of control - then the drums, tryin' to clean up with a power fill, pull it all back down again :cool:
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Lol,.. I like your decription of the feel, I loved it!!! My tone recipe is very simple, keep it simple and clean. The song excluding the ending solo is my D'Pergo AVC (strat style guitar) into a Honeybee pedal (for light breakup)through my old 1968 Fender Deluxe Reverb. miced with with 1 SM57, that is the entire chain. The ending lead was my Callaham (strat style guitar) ran into my old Ibanez TS9, ran into my Pure 64 Mean Street Classic amp (boutique version of my old deluxe really), miced with the SM57.
I hear you on the ending, go for an emotional vamp. I had thought about that, but it is too hard to pull off with the drum machine I have, plus the bass player is just now hearing the song lol, I kind of what told him what to play over the beat that I later changed. It would not have worked out. I need a real band to do the emotional crescendo. But i like the idea!
 
Wow, this is awesome. The clean guitar tone is amazing, and the vocals are deep and soulful. I don't really have any mixing feedback since I'm listening on laptop speakers, but it sounds really well-produced from what I hear. I think I may be hearing too much reverb on the hi-hat. That, or it has some unnatural delay-like decay.
 
Tones are great, performances are fine. I'll leave arrangement critiques to the others.

The main thing I heard, in phones, was that the panning was...odd. Not wrong, just...odd. The hihat is way off to the left and the snare is also left, which matches a right-handed drummer's perspective, but not any other listener's. Then the guitars are panned so the one with the most similar tonal balance to the hat is also on the left and the one with more low-mids is right. All the HF is left with none right until the rhythm guitar does a brief solo at 1:55. The lower range seems heavy on the right until :35 when the bass comes in, way off to the left.

If it were up to me, I'd flip L and R on the drums to balance the HF (and give it audience perspective), move the bass near center and put the organ on the left to balance off the low-mids of the rhythm guitar. Then when the rhythm becomes the brighter outro solo on the right it would be balanced against the ride on the left.
 
Ditto all above...especially 'give da drummer and bassman some'....

Wicked nice vox. Real good hands and chops on the guits.

Nits:
At 0:45 one of the instruments is playing a maj7 note down in the low mid area...overtones make it sound like a wrong note.

At 1:45 the organ sustains the sus4 over the maj3 on the guitar just a tad longer than it can, without making it sound like an 'oops'.

At 4:56, the bass player drinks a beer and misses a note.

The bass ...aside from being uninterestingly used...is big, full and never decays....like it's compressed a whole lot, or it's fake...or it's an organ pedal. Real bass, with a decay that opens some space at the end of its long sustains would be a relief. It's fatiguing.

Where's the horn section??:)

Real good work!
 
Guitars are outstanding

I'd like to hear a little more organ swell on the outro (that sounded rude) just to add to the dynamics

How are you compressing your vocals? You've got a great tone that could be brought out with a bit of parallel compression. Volume is a little low as noted above, but it is also presences against the guitar tone.

Loved to hear it against live drums and a bass working with your dynamics
 
New Guy said:
Lol,.. I like your decription of the feel, I loved it!!! My tone recipe is very simple, keep it simple and clean. The song excluding the ending solo is my D'Pergo AVC (strat style guitar) into a Honeybee pedal (for light breakup)through my old 1968 Fender Deluxe Reverb. miced with with 1 SM57, that is the entire chain. The ending lead was my Callaham (strat style guitar) ran into my old Ibanez TS9, ran into my Pure 64 Mean Street Classic amp (boutique version of my old deluxe really), miced with the SM57.
I hear you on the ending, go for an emotional vamp. I had thought about that, but it is too hard to pull off with the drum machine I have, plus the bass player is just now hearing the song lol, I kind of what told him what to play over the beat that I later changed. It would not have worked out. I need a real band to do the emotional crescendo. But i like the idea!
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Ok, so I think what you are saying is that good equipment = good tone. Hmmm...that's radical. I'm gonna tell my wife that I need to spend $1000 on a 40 yr old amp and a guitar that has no price, you just have to call'em and they might send you one if you leave them a blank check....She'll dig that - I'm set!

But seriously, you've posted the guitar tone that comes closest to a professional recording that I've heard yet on the board. You've got the blues tone nailed. I'm hoping someone can post or show me an old post of some killer rock and metal tones done at home before I lose all hope of getting a good tone without going broke or getting divorced!
 
FadeToMuffins said:
Wow, this is awesome. The clean guitar tone is amazing, and the vocals are deep and soulful. I don't really have any mixing feedback since I'm listening on laptop speakers, but it sounds really well-produced from what I hear. I think I may be hearing too much reverb on the hi-hat. That, or it has some unnatural delay-like decay.
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Thank you, I really appreciate the encouragement, I have been toying with the idea of putting together a cd, I may do it.
 
bouldersoundguy said:
Tones are great, performances are fine. I'll leave arrangement critiques to the others.

The main thing I heard, in phones, was that the panning was...odd. Not wrong, just...odd. The hihat is way off to the left and the snare is also left, which matches a right-handed drummer's perspective, but not any other listener's. Then the guitars are panned so the one with the most similar tonal balance to the hat is also on the left and the one with more low-mids is right. All the HF is left with none right until the rhythm guitar does a brief solo at 1:55. The lower range seems heavy on the right until :35 when the bass comes in, way off to the left.

If it were up to me, I'd flip L and R on the drums to balance the HF (and give it audience perspective), move the bass near center and put the organ on the left to balance off the low-mids of the rhythm guitar. Then when the rhythm becomes the brighter outro solo on the right it would be balanced against the ride on the left.
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Hmm, I never thought of it in those terms, good stuff, thanks!
 
jeffmaher said:
Ditto all above...especially 'give da drummer and bassman some'....

Wicked nice vox. Real good hands and chops on the guits.

Nits:
At 0:45 one of the instruments is playing a maj7 note down in the low mid area...overtones make it sound like a wrong note.

At 1:45 the organ sustains the sus4 over the maj3 on the guitar just a tad longer than it can, without making it sound like an 'oops'.

At 4:56, the bass player drinks a beer and misses a note.

The bass ...aside from being uninterestingly used...is big, full and never decays....like it's compressed a whole lot, or it's fake...or it's an organ pedal. Real bass, with a decay that opens some space at the end of its long sustains would be a relief. It's fatiguing.

Where's the horn section??:)

Real good work!
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Great ears!!!! "Odd way to record", that is how I would describe the technique used for the tune. I had a completely different beat and had the bass player put down a track over the drums and scratch guitar (he was flying blind, poor guy). I then went back and recorded the guitar tracks. Later I then changed the drums, this changed the feel of everything, but not to the point of changing the guitar or bass. then the keys were dropped in, it all works, but there are a few spots that make you scratch your head a bit. Not conventional, but this was a rough draft. I was just working out an idea, something I hope to take to the studio. Thanks for the listen and critique, you have some great ears my friend!
 
Whatmysay said:
Guitars are outstanding

I'd like to hear a little more organ swell on the outro (that sounded rude) just to add to the dynamics

How are you compressing your vocals? You've got a great tone that could be brought out with a bit of parallel compression. Volume is a little low as noted above, but it is also presences against the guitar tone.

Loved to hear it against live drums and a bass working with your dynamics
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I agree, these are some good ideas. I need to get better at mastering, the truth is I just use a preset that sounds the best for the entire song. I am leaving a lot on the table this way, I may try and work it out. Thanks for the compliments, I appreciate it!
 
maximusbs said:
Ok, so I think what you are saying is that good equipment = good tone. Hmmm...that's radical. I'm gonna tell my wife that I need to spend $1000 on a 40 yr old amp and a guitar that has no price, you just have to call'em and they might send you one if you leave them a blank check....She'll dig that - I'm set!

But seriously, you've posted the guitar tone that comes closest to a professional recording that I've heard yet on the board. You've got the blues tone nailed. I'm hoping someone can post or show me an old post of some killer rock and metal tones done at home before I lose all hope of getting a good tone without going broke or getting divorced!
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You don't have to spend a bunch of money to get a great tone, here is a link that I think shows some great techniques for getting a studio heavy metal tone. http://www.imperialmastering.com/guitartonevid/
 
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