New rhythmic Adventure

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OK, I prepared a bunch of different files over this assault at a very incomprehensible 13 beat pattern. No easy access here: you've got to just sit back and let the rhythmic feeling assign itself to you. Don't try to associate it with any other rhythm you've ever heard unless you understand 13 and can feel it in a different way.
Then you're already there! Welcome to my world.
One is a high quality 160 Kbps file; complete tune.
One is a very listenable and complete 24 Kbps file at 11KHz. 473 KB. One is a clippet of the second file at 77 KB total.

http://members.home.net/drstawl/midi.html

MP3 Gallery #2a, 2b and 2c

Enjoy.
 
Impressions:

Lounge
Floating in Water
Floating in Water on Floaty
Cat jumps onto me, on the Floaty
Cat curls up on lap and falls asleep
Cat has a dream (we're at 1:35 now)
Cat hears something, raises ears
Um... I'm in the middle of a pool with a cat on my lap and have no idea how to get out of the pool so I go to sleep...

How's that?
 
ditto+I here weeds growing out of the water about halfway through the song........I'll definitely return to your site to hear more...
 
I've got a sloow modem but when the Dr posts I've gotta DL.
Its like a modern classical piece, realy nice.

Sometimes i wonder what would happen if you said: "Fuckit! I'm going commercial!" :eek: NEVER!!

cheers
john
 
What Kelly said, only I see a wabbit..

Best part is when the wabbit has a dream (1.35 ->)

It also reminds me of the weird dreams I ALWAYS have when I take a nap in the afternoon.. This might just be the therapy I (and Kelly) need.
 
got the big one after only one false start....very pleasing to the ear.....beat not incomprehensible at all...flowed nicely.....kinda dreamy:D....gibs
 
I restocked my HomeRec MP3 file at work, and I'll be damned if EACH TIME I downloaded there was at first a false start.

Doc, you may want to post that on your download site, so folks don't think you don't know what you're doing.

(hehe, i've got a KILLER one-liner, too much respect, damn...)

:D
 
nice beat, easy to dance to, I give it a 9

Cool. Since you told us it was in 13, I of course tried to count. No luck.

Like Jackson Pollack.

Like waking up from a dream.

Like a really deep breath.
 
Definitely some thought provoking tune-age, Doc.
It reminds me of the days I used to smoke... uh, er ....nevermind. ;)

"cat Brains" is still my fave. That song is awesome!
 
Thank you ALL for your kind comments on my rather "Out There" stuff. I promise you- that's not the only way I perceive or reconstruct musical passages. Just one that I figure (by now) that nobody else is covering.

Thank you for your Support.

John from Down Under on the North Coast: No way in HELL I'm going conventional. Have a nice day and thank U 4 your support.
 
Hey doc... I thought I heard what sounded like some oriental sounds in there for a little bit before it changed direction. Speaking of which, everytime I listen to these compositions you create, it's like every note is a change in direction from the previous note... I don't mean this in any derrogatory way, as it's quite refreshing to listen to something that you have absolutely no idea what is coming next, which is a cool thing, and I think it's something that you are purposely trying to achieve and doing so successfully.

I'm kinda interested in how you sit down and create something like this. If you've described the process before and I've missed it let me know I'll go look it up... surely someone must have asked this before Is it all improvised? Do you have it all planned out in your head? Where do you start?
 
Doc buys heavy-caliber guns on a regular basis. He also inherited Liberace's keyboard controller, and has had thick steel sheet metal built around it. He takes this contraption and puts it in a 55-gallon drum, taking care that the cords stay intact.

Then, from a distance of thirty or so feet, he fires staccato bursts of machine-gun fire at the large barrel. The bullet ricochets around the barrel, occasionally hitting various notes on Liberace's old controller, which happens to have enough rheinstones to make it bulletproof. The bullets continue their journey until losing inertia, at which point Doc fires more rounds.

Quantisize and bake at 350* for two hours.

VIOLA!

:D
 
I thought it sounded like creed. What a sell-out.

Heh. Again my useless earth-brain is unable to comprehend the rythmic structure of your music. But alas, I always do enjoy it.

Maybe in 10 years your music will be the norm and they'll do a made for TV movie about you. The whole first half of the movie will be people heckling you and putting down your music. Then half-ways through the movie some soon-to-be famous record producer will discover you and start putting out records. Then all the kids will totally dig it and 13 beat rhythm will take the country by storm. Then you'll get hit by a peach truck and the nation will mourne. Sorry to hear about that, by the way. Then they'll build some statue of you with your cats and keyboard in your hometown.

At any rate, you're destined for greatness :) Honestly I really do enjoy your music. I always listen to each number at least 10-20 times, and while I am starting to get a feel for it, I'm still not at a place where I feel I can muster an opinion without sounding like an ass.

Slackmaster 2000
 
<<I always listen to each number at least 10-20 times, and while I am starting to get a feel for it, I'm still not at a place where I feel I can muster an opinion without sounding like an ass. >>

That's probably the nicest thing someone could say about someone elses music. Nice one slack :)
cheers
john
 
Coop: I'll take a whack at explaining how this one was done. I improvised a passage on the keyboard recording at half speed. Then I took the "staff" view in CW and, measure by measure fixed any notes that I missed. How- you may ask, can I tell which notes are "wrong" when none of 'em sound "right"? Well that's what makes this part so tough! No equations or fancy theories. I just listen to it and make a decision on each note. Sometimes this takes multiple listens. But I generally get the rhythmic basis of it with very little fudging around after the fact. If a note feels late or early I'll slide it into place, but that's much more infrequent than the HUGE # of bad notes I have to weed out from most improvised tracks. Then I wrote several bass lines directly in staff view against the line I already had. Then I improvised another 2 tracks like the first one using the bass lines I just wrote as a click track. Fixed them and wrote a few short "lead" tracks and the ending. Then it was a matter of doing an "SF Acid" (that's Sound Forge not San Fran) style arrangement by mixing and matching the verses with the bass lines. After that, the instrument selections were finalized, and the pans and volumes adjusted globally.

Buck: Yeah I still love Cat Brains as well. Searching for more material like that seems (for me anyway) somewhat impossible, but I keep trying. And it was the freshly written synth tune that spawned the idea for the lyrics, not the other way around, so just thinking other weird thoughts and trying to come up with music that matches it doesn't work for me.

Slack: Thanks, and I'll be on the lookout for peach trucks running amok. My assistant and his wife just got out of the hospital from last Sunday when they totalled their 280C. Man- what a sweet ride that car used to be. Despite your claim to not understand this music, I think you've gotten the point in the post that started this thread: Just listen to it and don't try to find the 13 beats that are there only in a mathematical context.

Kelly and Meshuggah: Those dreams sound like the sort that were the basis of the classic Lewis Carrol fantasies.
 
Well, I haven't been around much lately and it's been even longer since i downloaded and review anything here, so I figured there's no better place to start a review session than with some of you stuff doc...

I like this one a lot, it's quite relaxing actually. After listening to so much new stuff that I've downloaded tonight, I keep coming back to this song now and then as it seems to clense my musical palette so I can get a fresh listen going on the other stuff. I think it's because it's over my head, yet I still can get into it. It's cool that've you've managed to capture musical ideas that I can't comprehend, yet I still enjoy listening to the song.
 
The largest chunk I could manage to download in four tries was 800 Kb, and that bit sounded beautiful. I wish I coulda got the whole thing. It isn't my system - I recently reinstalled Windows and Netscape, and successfully downloaded three files today between 3000 and 5000 Kb. I suspect a conspiracy. Don't apologize. You're being victimized. :D

If I had to do something in 13 (notice the expression 'had to'), I'd count it 8 and 5. I heard somewhere that the largest single group of multiples your average homosapiens can manage at one attention instant is a group of 7. I think there's something in that. If I try to count in 9 for example, I'm aware of a kind of lower rhythm that's simplifying the rhythm easily into a triadic pulse. How about you?
 
That's why I like to force the issue and only choose primes above your 5 - 8 range.
 
Actually I've done a couple of funk tunes using 15 and 17 that came out well. Trouble is finding people to learn it and record them.
Dobro: Maybe the goverment is filtering out my mp3s so they won't infect the people of Singapore.
 
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