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[mikecoleman]

blues artist seeks advice .
what did the old school use when they recorded blues?
probably any crappy mic they could find.!!!!
i got some condencers and they just don't sound like i want.
I want them to be warm but I still want the overtone.
A dynamic like a 58 give me warm but not clarity and no overtone.
should I try a tube preamp ? I'm already using I presonus compressor.
I own the beringher ultra tube It's clean but it's about all, does not color like I want, rich sound with alot of harmonic like new guitar strings .
am I going to have to rent a Newman?

ps: I love my vocal live with a beta 58 but then its got air and speaker
it's never the same in studio.

 

[corban]

From what I hear, you're looking for a tube preamp like the Brick. You can run your condensors through there and still get the clarity. I haven't heard that preamp myself, but it sounds like that's along the lines of what you're looking for.

 

[Richard Monroe]

Start with a top of the line dynamic mic, such as Electrovoice RE20 or Shure SM7B. Plug it into a nice preamp with some color. I'm sorry- *that* won't come cheap. The Brick has been mentioned, and is a fair mid priced option. I like Pendulum for what you want, but I guarantee that'll give you sticker shock. Real tube amps cost money, but I don't know any other way to get the sound you are describing.-Richie

 

[mshilarious]

How about the green combo for the blues: Shure Green Bullet, and MXL V67G?

As for preamps, you can get lots of 'color' out of cheap tube pres, but to avoid muddiness they usually require mods, at least a decent tube like a US-made NOS tube. Otherwise you're in the high-dollar territory like Richard mentioned.

 

[bennychico11]

another vote for the green bullet. only $120, horrible frequency response, looks cool.....what else works better for nasty blues records??

 

[Blue Bear Sound]

The green bullet sounds nasty on amps for guitar (to my ears, anyways) -- but it's outstanding when used on harmonica through an amp (harmonica --> green bullet --> amp --> SM57 on amp --> high-quality mic pre --> recorder)

 

[gtrman_66]

If you're really serious about an "old school" sound, look for some old ribbon mics, maybe RCA 77,44 or a 74. Ampex 350 or 351 preamps. For a dynamic, maybe a Shure 55 SW or an EV 664.

Just be aware that a lot of this stuff is really old and you might have to futz around with it a lot to get it into useable shape, and of course "caveat emptor" on any of this old stuff. Also, the RCA ribbon mics I have listed can get rather pricey.

Good luck!

 

[mshilarious]

another vote for the green bullet. only $120, horrible frequency response, looks cool.....what else works better for nasty blues records??

C'mon, it ain't that bad . . .









mine only cost $100

Bear, I don't think it works on guitar amps because it limited frequency response is like doubling down on the limited response an electric guitar naturally has. It does sound very cool on acoustic guitar for an effect, and works well for the distorted vocal trick (vocal -> green bullet -> amp , etc).