LAZI
New member
Here's a users group with a bunch of posts... Try doing a search for your Yamamha A series questions...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/YamahaA5000/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/YamahaA5000/
P
PhilMckracken
New member
Sounds to me like the best bet here is a Kurzweil 2600 with sampling. As far as real sounds go and workstations, this is it. It has sampling, workstation capabilities and great sounds.
That notwithstanding, I think your blanket rejection of soft samplers is shortsighted. Since you are entering the sampling arena now, in this day and age, you should also consider where most of the support is being put. To me, it appears that most of the sound design companies are focusing heavily on Gigastudio. All of the best libraries lately are for Gigastudio. As far as not wanting to dea with computers. A SAMPLER, ANY SAMPLER IS A COMPUTER for all intents and purposes though maybe a bit stripped down.
I have an EMU 6400 with and internal hard drive and frankly, it works great, holds lots of sounds, has great sounds, reads many formats, is easy to use, has editing capabilites, can be hooked up to a computer (though I have not done so yet) and, I believe you can ge an effects card for it too!
Right now, the EMU stuff is very affordable because it has been largely overshadowed by the software samplers. Recently, I added the Native Instruments Kontakt program to my sampling set-up. I do not know how well it will work with everything else since I am still learning how to use it, but I do know this: As far as editing and flexibility in controlling samples, the hardware does not compare to the software. I purchased the Kontakt because I have a Mac system and Giagstudio is for PC only. Kontakt allegedly plays Gigasampler format though this is different, I believe, that Gigasampler (Gigasampler is the earlier version I think) may not be as good or have as many good libraries as the Gigastudio but I do not know for sure yet. It may ultimately be necessary to add the Gigastudio anyway in addition to the Kontakt.
As a summary to this post which, I realize is a bit all over the place, I would add that the EMU sampler does really sound great. For instance, I did a track the other day using standard EMU horn samples and it sounds excellent. The horns are really convincing compared to any workstation horns I have heard. In fact, I have a Korg Karma which has the same soundset as the Triton and the same horn sounds. As far as I am concerned, the EMU sampled horns sound infinitely more real than the Triton/Karma horns.
To be sure, there are times when the workstation sounds are more appropriate than "real" sounding samples, however, it is for you to decide at this point whether or not you want accurate real instruments or electronicy type synth instruments.
Anyway you go, happy hunting and have a nice holiday.
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
That notwithstanding, I think your blanket rejection of soft samplers is shortsighted. Since you are entering the sampling arena now, in this day and age, you should also consider where most of the support is being put. To me, it appears that most of the sound design companies are focusing heavily on Gigastudio. All of the best libraries lately are for Gigastudio. As far as not wanting to dea with computers. A SAMPLER, ANY SAMPLER IS A COMPUTER for all intents and purposes though maybe a bit stripped down.
I have an EMU 6400 with and internal hard drive and frankly, it works great, holds lots of sounds, has great sounds, reads many formats, is easy to use, has editing capabilites, can be hooked up to a computer (though I have not done so yet) and, I believe you can ge an effects card for it too!
Right now, the EMU stuff is very affordable because it has been largely overshadowed by the software samplers. Recently, I added the Native Instruments Kontakt program to my sampling set-up. I do not know how well it will work with everything else since I am still learning how to use it, but I do know this: As far as editing and flexibility in controlling samples, the hardware does not compare to the software. I purchased the Kontakt because I have a Mac system and Giagstudio is for PC only. Kontakt allegedly plays Gigasampler format though this is different, I believe, that Gigasampler (Gigasampler is the earlier version I think) may not be as good or have as many good libraries as the Gigastudio but I do not know for sure yet. It may ultimately be necessary to add the Gigastudio anyway in addition to the Kontakt.
As a summary to this post which, I realize is a bit all over the place, I would add that the EMU sampler does really sound great. For instance, I did a track the other day using standard EMU horn samples and it sounds excellent. The horns are really convincing compared to any workstation horns I have heard. In fact, I have a Korg Karma which has the same soundset as the Triton and the same horn sounds. As far as I am concerned, the EMU sampled horns sound infinitely more real than the Triton/Karma horns.
To be sure, there are times when the workstation sounds are more appropriate than "real" sounding samples, however, it is for you to decide at this point whether or not you want accurate real instruments or electronicy type synth instruments.
Anyway you go, happy hunting and have a nice holiday.
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
regebro
Insane Genious!
The choice betwen a sampler and a synth is a hard one, but it doesn't have anything to do with musical style. For example, most people would typically put Aphex Twins "Windowlicker" into some sort of techno-camp, and techno is usually done mostly with synthesizers. However, many of the main sounds and effects of Windowlicker is impossible to do without some sort of sampling or digital sound editing.
In general, a sampler is more flexible. Especially modern samplers that have envelopes and filters, and hence can be made to work much like simple virtual analog synthers (The Yamaha AxK series included).
On the other hand, samplers are generally much more complicated to use. Setting up samples is (as mentioned earlier) a time consuming task, and quite often you'll probably end up using finished sample-banks (there are load of commercially available of course, but also a lot of free ones). So if your main aim is synthesized sounds rather than sampled, a sampler will be a very complicated way to synthesize those sounds.
In general, a sampler is more flexible. Especially modern samplers that have envelopes and filters, and hence can be made to work much like simple virtual analog synthers (The Yamaha AxK series included).
On the other hand, samplers are generally much more complicated to use. Setting up samples is (as mentioned earlier) a time consuming task, and quite often you'll probably end up using finished sample-banks (there are load of commercially available of course, but also a lot of free ones). So if your main aim is synthesized sounds rather than sampled, a sampler will be a very complicated way to synthesize those sounds.
S
StudioRecorder
New member
If it were me making this decision, I would purchase a synth/keyboard first such as the Motif or a Triton and consider a sampler later.....
I've thought about that also, about the Motif. But I can only afford One really good platform. Maybe, just maybe getting the Motif Rack later.
- The sampler will need a controller. You had mentioned the Midiman Oxygen 8. 25 keys, USB interface (no standard midi ports from what I could find, no after touch (?). Basically designed for connection to computer to control soft synths. A keyboard such as the Motif would be a far better controller than the Oxygen 8, if you could even get the Oxygen 8 to work somehow via USB. Even a $600 Alesis QS6 would be far better than the Oxygen. And the 25 keys of the Oxygen would be very, very limiting to play on.
I thought that keyboard had everything. I rarely use more than one hand on the keys when programming sequences so the size was just to my advantage. I even read somewhere, it had aftertouch. I'll look into that after purchase.
- A Motif or Triton are in fact sample players in that the basis for the sound they create are from samples in ROM memory in the board. No need to load samples from an external source. Most of these samples are multisampled (individual samples over a range of octaves from the source instrument), so the resulting sound is as realistic as possible. If your looking for a good piano or Hammond B3 you can probable get it out of either of these boards or tweak/edit the sound a bit to your satisfaction.
I'll probably get the Motif Rack later on. But my main purpose for a sampler was to get out of the ordinary sounds. Sounds that aren't on every Rock/Pop album that come out. As you are stating in this next paragraph.
- I tend to use the sampler to add specialized accent sounds to a piece, and generally not as the fundamental instrument. These are sounds I absolutely can't derive from a synth such as vocal snipets, sound efx, etc. I find most of the time a synth is more than adequate for pianos, strings, orchestral sounds, etc.
- If you are auditioning sounds to fit a particular song, a synth will be much quicker to find sounds than loading sound sets in a sampler.
Precisly! Couldn't have said it better myself.
- The Motif as well as the Triton can be fit with expansion boards. You could essentially turn the Motif into a Virtual Analog synth or a vintage Yamaha DX-7.
That is something I really like to do, both the analog and the DX expansion. They sound really good, Yamaha also has a lot of experience with both these areas so it shouldn't sound that bad.
- Computer sequencing is great such as you are doing. Having the onboard sequencing capabiity in the Motif is good if you ever play outside the studio. Also as a quick sketchpad the on board sequencers are good.
What kind of sequencing program do you recomend. I'm using ProTools LE for the moment being!
************************************************
- What was your opinion of the sounds of the Motif when you tried it ? (Use a good set of headphones when auditioning a board, external amps and speakers and surroundings sometimes "color" the sound)
I tried both platforms with the same sets of headphone. I hated Triton. U've heard it all before on every single record to come out after 1998. And even doesn't sound any good. Motif on the other hand is a beautiful synth/sample playback tool which sounds amazing for being a synth. A negative side to the Motif is however that you're basicly stuck with the sounds as with any modern sample synth/workstation.
As I said, I'll probably get the Motif rack instead of the platform.
- Did the Motif seem to lack something which steered you towards the sampler?
Personal sounds, I like things that are personal and editable. So you could easely change the way things sound. And it didn't have all that many Percussive sounds. Just the basic drumkits. They sounded really good though, especially the POP and DnB kits.
-And what was the turn off about the Triton ?
Triton lacks dynamics in contrast to Motif for example. The Triton sounds flat and lifeless and I didn't find any patch that kinda stood out on its own. It's probably a nice workstation if you're into electronic music. But not if you like retro sounds like I do.
-I've played with both of these boards in the music store and they both sounded great. It would be a tough choice between the two. But I say again, I would purchase the synth before the rack sampler.
That would probably be a good choice for me too, but I've chosen to go for the Rack version of the Motif and get a really good sampler and a nice sequencing program for my computer. The Motif 6 has all that you might say, but to what extent.
I've thought about that also, about the Motif. But I can only afford One really good platform. Maybe, just maybe getting the Motif Rack later.
- The sampler will need a controller. You had mentioned the Midiman Oxygen 8. 25 keys, USB interface (no standard midi ports from what I could find, no after touch (?). Basically designed for connection to computer to control soft synths. A keyboard such as the Motif would be a far better controller than the Oxygen 8, if you could even get the Oxygen 8 to work somehow via USB. Even a $600 Alesis QS6 would be far better than the Oxygen. And the 25 keys of the Oxygen would be very, very limiting to play on.
I thought that keyboard had everything. I rarely use more than one hand on the keys when programming sequences so the size was just to my advantage. I even read somewhere, it had aftertouch. I'll look into that after purchase.
- A Motif or Triton are in fact sample players in that the basis for the sound they create are from samples in ROM memory in the board. No need to load samples from an external source. Most of these samples are multisampled (individual samples over a range of octaves from the source instrument), so the resulting sound is as realistic as possible. If your looking for a good piano or Hammond B3 you can probable get it out of either of these boards or tweak/edit the sound a bit to your satisfaction.
I'll probably get the Motif Rack later on. But my main purpose for a sampler was to get out of the ordinary sounds. Sounds that aren't on every Rock/Pop album that come out. As you are stating in this next paragraph.
- I tend to use the sampler to add specialized accent sounds to a piece, and generally not as the fundamental instrument. These are sounds I absolutely can't derive from a synth such as vocal snipets, sound efx, etc. I find most of the time a synth is more than adequate for pianos, strings, orchestral sounds, etc.
- If you are auditioning sounds to fit a particular song, a synth will be much quicker to find sounds than loading sound sets in a sampler.
Precisly! Couldn't have said it better myself.
- The Motif as well as the Triton can be fit with expansion boards. You could essentially turn the Motif into a Virtual Analog synth or a vintage Yamaha DX-7.
That is something I really like to do, both the analog and the DX expansion. They sound really good, Yamaha also has a lot of experience with both these areas so it shouldn't sound that bad.
- Computer sequencing is great such as you are doing. Having the onboard sequencing capabiity in the Motif is good if you ever play outside the studio. Also as a quick sketchpad the on board sequencers are good.
What kind of sequencing program do you recomend. I'm using ProTools LE for the moment being!
************************************************
- What was your opinion of the sounds of the Motif when you tried it ? (Use a good set of headphones when auditioning a board, external amps and speakers and surroundings sometimes "color" the sound)
I tried both platforms with the same sets of headphone. I hated Triton. U've heard it all before on every single record to come out after 1998. And even doesn't sound any good. Motif on the other hand is a beautiful synth/sample playback tool which sounds amazing for being a synth. A negative side to the Motif is however that you're basicly stuck with the sounds as with any modern sample synth/workstation.
As I said, I'll probably get the Motif rack instead of the platform.
- Did the Motif seem to lack something which steered you towards the sampler?
Personal sounds, I like things that are personal and editable. So you could easely change the way things sound. And it didn't have all that many Percussive sounds. Just the basic drumkits. They sounded really good though, especially the POP and DnB kits.
-And what was the turn off about the Triton ?
Triton lacks dynamics in contrast to Motif for example. The Triton sounds flat and lifeless and I didn't find any patch that kinda stood out on its own. It's probably a nice workstation if you're into electronic music. But not if you like retro sounds like I do.
-I've played with both of these boards in the music store and they both sounded great. It would be a tough choice between the two. But I say again, I would purchase the synth before the rack sampler.
That would probably be a good choice for me too, but I've chosen to go for the Rack version of the Motif and get a really good sampler and a nice sequencing program for my computer. The Motif 6 has all that you might say, but to what extent.
S
StudioRecorder
New member
Sounds to me like the best bet here is a Kurzweil 2600 with sampling. As far as real sounds go and workstations, this is it. It has sampling, workstation capabilities and great sounds.
I really don't know anything about the Kurz's. I tried a K2000s about a year ago. I personally thought the sounds sounded way way 80's/90's and not that modern. I understand that VAST-technology is a rather old synthesis method but a fairly good one. I know that top keyboard players use the K2600 and they really learn to program that thing. But I don't know if it's the right thing for me.
That notwithstanding, I think your blanket rejection of soft samplers is shortsighted. Since you are entering the sampling arena now, in this day and age, you should also consider where most of the support is being put. To me, it appears that most of the sound design companies are focusing heavily on Gigastudio. All of the best libraries lately are for Gigastudio. As far as not wanting to dea with computers. A SAMPLER, ANY SAMPLER IS A COMPUTER for all intents and purposes though maybe a bit stripped down.
Since I use a Mac, I can't really benefit Gigasampler. Kontakt I've heard of, but I would probably have to get a faster computer to run both PT LE and the Soft sampler.
I have an EMU 6400 with and internal hard drive and frankly, it works great, holds lots of sounds, has great sounds, reads many formats, is easy to use, has editing capabilites, can be hooked up to a computer (though I have not done so yet) and, I believe you can ge an effects card for it too!
I knew EMU made samplers. But I didn't know they where any good! I may have to look into that before purchasing anything!
Right now, the EMU stuff is very affordable because it has been largely overshadowed by the software samplers.
All hardware samplers are loosing market, not just the Emu's.
To be sure, there are times when the workstation sounds are more appropriate than "real" sounding samples, however, it is for you to decide at this point whether or not you want accurate real instruments or electronicy type synth instruments.
As I said in the last posts, I wan't personal sounding beats and percussive sounds. Bass is also a thing I wan't to be personal. I don't like to use sounds that everyone else is using.
Anyway you go, happy hunting and have a nice holiday.
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF YOU TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanx for writing!
I really don't know anything about the Kurz's. I tried a K2000s about a year ago. I personally thought the sounds sounded way way 80's/90's and not that modern. I understand that VAST-technology is a rather old synthesis method but a fairly good one. I know that top keyboard players use the K2600 and they really learn to program that thing. But I don't know if it's the right thing for me.
That notwithstanding, I think your blanket rejection of soft samplers is shortsighted. Since you are entering the sampling arena now, in this day and age, you should also consider where most of the support is being put. To me, it appears that most of the sound design companies are focusing heavily on Gigastudio. All of the best libraries lately are for Gigastudio. As far as not wanting to dea with computers. A SAMPLER, ANY SAMPLER IS A COMPUTER for all intents and purposes though maybe a bit stripped down.
Since I use a Mac, I can't really benefit Gigasampler. Kontakt I've heard of, but I would probably have to get a faster computer to run both PT LE and the Soft sampler.
I have an EMU 6400 with and internal hard drive and frankly, it works great, holds lots of sounds, has great sounds, reads many formats, is easy to use, has editing capabilites, can be hooked up to a computer (though I have not done so yet) and, I believe you can ge an effects card for it too!
I knew EMU made samplers. But I didn't know they where any good! I may have to look into that before purchasing anything!
Right now, the EMU stuff is very affordable because it has been largely overshadowed by the software samplers.
All hardware samplers are loosing market, not just the Emu's.
To be sure, there are times when the workstation sounds are more appropriate than "real" sounding samples, however, it is for you to decide at this point whether or not you want accurate real instruments or electronicy type synth instruments.
As I said in the last posts, I wan't personal sounding beats and percussive sounds. Bass is also a thing I wan't to be personal. I don't like to use sounds that everyone else is using.
Anyway you go, happy hunting and have a nice holiday.
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF YOU TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanx for writing!
S
StudioRecorder
New member
"The choice betwen a sampler and a synth is a hard one, but it doesn't have anything to do with musical style. For example, most people would typically put Aphex Twins "Windowlicker" into some sort of techno-camp, and techno is usually done mostly with synthesizers. However, many of the main sounds and effects of Windowlicker is impossible to do without some sort of sampling or digital sound editing."
I personally think that a good patch is a song. I could never record an entire record with the same patches and the same sounding drums. I like to start over for every new song I work with. The importance is not the music played, it's the way it sounds. So for instance if you get a Motif, the sounds would hold up for say a few songs. There are many sounds on the Motif, don't get me wrong. But they're spread around a wide area and don't specifically keep to a special Genre. Motif has everything for anything. But it doesn't have a lot for something, if you understand what I'm saying?!
"In general, a sampler is more flexible. Especially modern samplers that have envelopes and filters, and hence can be made to work much like simple virtual analog synthers (The Yamaha AxK series included)."
That is true and also something I'd like to benefit.
"On the other hand, samplers are generally much more complicated to use. Setting up samples is (as mentioned earlier) a time consuming task, and quite often you'll probably end up using finished sample-banks (there are load of commercially available of course, but also a lot of free ones). So if your main aim is synthesized sounds rather than sampled, a sampler will be a very complicated way to synthesize those sounds."
Time I've got, if it's just not wasted time. I hate to get a board that I will later on find boring or not flexable enough...... enough said! I hope U'll get a picture of what I want. I still don't know what to get. MY MAIN PURPOSE for getting a sampler is to create and recreate beats with Bass. Percussive/melodical sound are also important and I like to tweek them as I go along. A nice sounding electronical Bass is also important to me and also like to be able to tweek it in every possible way!!!!!! I hope you can help me. I can't visit a musicstore, they only try to sell me stuff they've got on their hands. I think I've made the decision of getting a sampler. It seems as the right choice for me to do. With the new information you've been given. What kind of sampler do you recomend?
I personally think that a good patch is a song. I could never record an entire record with the same patches and the same sounding drums. I like to start over for every new song I work with. The importance is not the music played, it's the way it sounds. So for instance if you get a Motif, the sounds would hold up for say a few songs. There are many sounds on the Motif, don't get me wrong. But they're spread around a wide area and don't specifically keep to a special Genre. Motif has everything for anything. But it doesn't have a lot for something, if you understand what I'm saying?!
"In general, a sampler is more flexible. Especially modern samplers that have envelopes and filters, and hence can be made to work much like simple virtual analog synthers (The Yamaha AxK series included)."
That is true and also something I'd like to benefit.
"On the other hand, samplers are generally much more complicated to use. Setting up samples is (as mentioned earlier) a time consuming task, and quite often you'll probably end up using finished sample-banks (there are load of commercially available of course, but also a lot of free ones). So if your main aim is synthesized sounds rather than sampled, a sampler will be a very complicated way to synthesize those sounds."
Time I've got, if it's just not wasted time. I hate to get a board that I will later on find boring or not flexable enough...... enough said! I hope U'll get a picture of what I want. I still don't know what to get. MY MAIN PURPOSE for getting a sampler is to create and recreate beats with Bass. Percussive/melodical sound are also important and I like to tweek them as I go along. A nice sounding electronical Bass is also important to me and also like to be able to tweek it in every possible way!!!!!! I hope you can help me. I can't visit a musicstore, they only try to sell me stuff they've got on their hands. I think I've made the decision of getting a sampler. It seems as the right choice for me to do. With the new information you've been given. What kind of sampler do you recomend?
regebro
Insane Genious!
Yup, sounds to me like a sampler is the way to go for you.
Second hand Yamaha A-series is the most bang for the buck you can get, it's especially true for the A3000. It's also a safe investment since they won't drop in price if you decide it's not what you want after all, something that isn't true of you buy new stuff.
I dont' think you'll outgrow any of them, but the A5000 has greater polyphony and a couple of more bits in the A/D and D/A conversion. Probably will cost you at least twice as much as a A3000, though.
Second hand Yamaha A-series is the most bang for the buck you can get, it's especially true for the A3000. It's also a safe investment since they won't drop in price if you decide it's not what you want after all, something that isn't true of you buy new stuff.
I dont' think you'll outgrow any of them, but the A5000 has greater polyphony and a couple of more bits in the A/D and D/A conversion. Probably will cost you at least twice as much as a A3000, though.
S
StudioRecorder
New member
Hi again,
Do u really think the A5K is the way to go?
My main concern would be filters and I think Akai has a whole lot more in their Z-series than Yamaha's A-series. The USB connection in the Akai's are just perfect since it remotes the sampler from the software USB interface. The Yamaha however does all of the processings in the Computer and sends via SCSI the finnished sound to the sampler!
But if I go for something like the Z4, I'll get no effects and very limited outputs. So the choice would stand between Akai Z8 and the Yamaha A5K. The Z8 is double the cost of an new A5K and with that I don't get any sampleCD's.
Other than these details, both are quite similar. They are both top of the line samplers. I also think that I won't outgrow any of these in the years to come.
I think it all comes down to how much money I wan't to spend. And like I said in the fist Post, "I want the best sampler", I kinda just wanted the best to be able to pick out the next best and to get that instead of the BEST. I think for the time being the Yamaha's are the most I can get for the money spent, although they're not as good as the Akai's.
I wan't to thank you all for posting, this has truely help me a great deal. If someone has anything to add, like for instance if you think I still should get a Triton or an AKAI if so, please do!!!!!!!!
Do u really think the A5K is the way to go?
My main concern would be filters and I think Akai has a whole lot more in their Z-series than Yamaha's A-series. The USB connection in the Akai's are just perfect since it remotes the sampler from the software USB interface. The Yamaha however does all of the processings in the Computer and sends via SCSI the finnished sound to the sampler!
But if I go for something like the Z4, I'll get no effects and very limited outputs. So the choice would stand between Akai Z8 and the Yamaha A5K. The Z8 is double the cost of an new A5K and with that I don't get any sampleCD's.
Other than these details, both are quite similar. They are both top of the line samplers. I also think that I won't outgrow any of these in the years to come.
I think it all comes down to how much money I wan't to spend. And like I said in the fist Post, "I want the best sampler", I kinda just wanted the best to be able to pick out the next best and to get that instead of the BEST. I think for the time being the Yamaha's are the most I can get for the money spent, although they're not as good as the Akai's.
I wan't to thank you all for posting, this has truely help me a great deal. If someone has anything to add, like for instance if you think I still should get a Triton
or an AKAI if so, please do!!!!!!!!
regebro
Insane Genious!
StudioRecorder said:
Well, as I said before, I think a second hand A3k is the way to go, since this will give you the best bang for the buck, you'll likely not grow out of it anytime soon, and it won't drop in value as soon as you have bought it.
I generally find that it's a waste of money to buy the absolutely most expensive and best stuff, unless everything else you have also is the most super-best of each type. I mean, instead of choosing between a sampler and a synth and ending up getting a Z8 for $2000 you can get a second hand A3k, a Nord Lead and a micro modular. And you will be able to do much much more than what you could with just the Z8.
And unlless you are using a 2" 24 track Otari as a recording medium, the difference in sound quality between the Z8 and A3k won't be discernible.
S
StudioRecorder
New member
You're both right.
An A5K is a good choice for starters. U said it retails for $950 which is about the price I can get one here as well. That's a good price in my oppinion. You really want some things to be brand new, this is probably one of those things. Lets just hope that Yamaha hasn't discontinued this sampler. In that case I'll have a hard time finding one. The Second hand market over here is pretty lousy. The pricerange of these samplers used are almost equal to the brand new ones.
So, I was thinking about getting a Yamaha DX7-S as a MIDI controller. It has velocity and aftertouch. The DX-patches are also very sweet!! What do u think about this. I've used a Korg M1 for a while and I like the keys on that. If I'm not mistaking, the DX7 and the M1 use the same keyboard. A Yamaha one, I'm not too sure about the model though.
What do you recomend me buying for sequencing?!? I havn't had a chance looking into that yet. I'm currently using the ProTools software as the sequencer. Do you think it's enough or should I invest in something else? What? Maybe I'll just move this to a new Topic.
Thanx again for your time ppl!!!!!!!!!
An A5K is a good choice for starters. U said it retails for $950 which is about the price I can get one here as well. That's a good price in my oppinion. You really want some things to be brand new, this is probably one of those things. Lets just hope that Yamaha hasn't discontinued this sampler. In that case I'll have a hard time finding one. The Second hand market over here is pretty lousy. The pricerange of these samplers used are almost equal to the brand new ones.
So, I was thinking about getting a Yamaha DX7-S as a MIDI controller. It has velocity and aftertouch. The DX-patches are also very sweet!! What do u think about this. I've used a Korg M1 for a while and I like the keys on that. If I'm not mistaking, the DX7 and the M1 use the same keyboard. A Yamaha one, I'm not too sure about the model though.
What do you recomend me buying for sequencing?!? I havn't had a chance looking into that yet. I'm currently using the ProTools software as the sequencer. Do you think it's enough or should I invest in something else? What? Maybe I'll just move this to a new Topic.
Thanx again for your time ppl!!!!!!!!!
T
toby.I.
New member
why has only one person mentioned akai s5000/ s6000? fully expanded you can pick them up cheaply, and you've got 16 outs, 256mb ram, and an excellent display, which you don't really get on the emus. The difference between the akais and the emus is the fillters. don't look at the z seris akais though. they look like my first sampler for a start.