Need a little help

[Bosifis]

Hi everyone, I am new to the forum.
I have been recording at home for about three years now. Kinda figuring out things for myself...But this one stumps me.
I've been recording a couple of Beatle tracks-Holly's "Words of Love" and "Baby's In Black" and have been double tracking the lead guitars. I haven't done this before and have been getting a phase/chorus effect when I do it. I don't want to adjust the tone on my Gretsch because it looses the "twang". Is there a way to manipulate the second guitar to loose the phase effect?
Also, how would I go about artificial double tracking?

I'm playing through a Boss BR-8 8 track for effects and recording/mixing on Adobe Audition(Cool Edit Pro 2).

Any advice would be most appreciated....Thanks. Brian

 

[Han]

Is the effect still there when you pan the lead guitars hard left and right?

 

[Nate74]

Unless I'm missing something, if you send an "effected" signal to a track, it's gonna stay that way... Ok that sounds too obvious, I MUST be missing something.

Can you outline your signal chain for us?

 

[kylen]

Hi everyone, I am new to the forum.
... and have been double tracking the lead guitars. I haven't done this before and have been getting a phase/chorus effect when I do it.

This shouldn't be happening when you double-track unless there's some bleed or some other thing. How bout a visual picture describing how the 2nd track gets recorded - including your monitoring and your micing or DI setup and how it differs from the 1st recorded guitar track.

Also, how would I go about artificial double tracking?

For inspiration: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_double_tracking

If you don't have a tape deck a chorus (to simulate machine warble) and a Delay (to create the small delay) could be combined in certain ways to simulate it. Voxengo just released an Analog chorus (AnalogFlux) that does this very nicely too and has a Tape feel to it. http://voxengo.com/analogflux/

 

[notbradsohner]

are you micing the amp?

 

[scrubs]

...have been double tracking the lead guitars. I haven't done this before and have been getting a phase/chorus effect when I do it...Is there a way to manipulate the second guitar to loose the phase effect?
Also, how would I go about artificial double tracking?


I would guess you will always get a little of this because it is impossible to play the parts exactly the same way twice, resulting in a chorused sound (happens with doubled vocals too). I agree with the suggestion of panning each track hard left/right, which helps. As for artificial doubling, you can record (or copy) a take to two separate tracks and use different effects on each track to make them sound like two guitar takes (maybe a slight delay on one, different reverb time, etc., so it doesn't sound quite like the first). I've never really dug that sound, though. You can also use a Y splitter to send the signal from your guitar through different effects chains (one clean, one distorted, etc.) and then record each chain to a separate track, or blend them into one track.

 

[Bosifis]

Hi. First off, I didn't want to pan them, I kinda want to get a mono sound out of the recordings.

What I'm doing is playing through a Boss BR8 with compression, slight eq, and slight reverb...Someone told me to record dry, I tried it, but still got the same unwanted effect. I realize there wil be a slight phase, but it sounds bad.(To me at least, I'm picky )

So, through the 8-track the signal goes through my Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS sound card, and records on Adobe Audition. I record one part on track one. Then overdub the same part on track two. I don't add anything to the tracks on Audition. I don't change anything on my 8-track or guitar. That's it.

For you Beatle freaks out there, listen to "Words of Love" off of "Beatles For Sale". You'll hear George's guitar is double-tracked(It's not a 12 string, I check MANY sources).

Any takers????? Thanks...Brian