need a good amp for pop punk

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alright.. i will have to spend some more money before i finally get to mix my first songs.. after weeks of messing around trying to get a decent sound out of my korg ax100g pedal and peavey rage 158, i've come to the conclusion (and from what i've read here) that this peavey amp just sucks.

ok, i bought it because before that, i was using the "champ 15" that came with my squier strat :D :D, and so i was of course really impressed with the sound (and price) of the peavey.. so i didnt think i could be wrong buying it. and well i dont regret it either, its nice to practice with it and it was cheap.

but as i start to record, and really getting insane with the guitar sound around for ages now, i find it impossible to get a decent sound.

so i must admit, that i dont know much about amps. it would be cool if you could give me some recommendations for my style of music (guitar is a "tom delonge signature" strat), or just amps that are popular.. u know what i mean..

the cheaper, the better (of course) - but no cheap shit anymore.. i want an amp that will serve me more well - dont want another "peavey rage"-experience again.. if u know what i mean :)

THANK YOUUUUU :)
 
For $100, get a Johnson J-station, tehy are being cleared out right now. It is a little modelling unit like a POD. I am not suggesting this is the final solution, by any means, because a real tube amp can't be touched by modelling,

BUT that said, the modeller is a great place to start, because it comes with 24 reasonable approximations of different amps, some of hte models are actually really good, some aren't so hot, but with this unit you will be able to get a variety of sounds, and narrow down what sound you like, and therefore what amp to buy. You don't want to buy an amp that someone else tells you is great, because we all play differently and like different sounds, one man's greeat amp is another's piece of shit. I, for one, am not at all a Marshall fan, don't like the sound or tone for my style, I am a Fender or Vox lover, but you will of course hear many a recommendation for Marshall, or Boogie.


The J-station can even just go into the tape input on your Rage 158, and that would be your cabinet. For $100 you will have 24 different amps, and a very very handy recording tool and late night practice rig. Then in a few months you will know whether you are a Boogie man, a Marshall fan, Fender Blackface or Bandmaster or Bassman etc etc.
 
Well it looks like your on a little budget, and that's fine because most of us are :)


Last year, I had a little money and decided to upgrade to a Schecter guitar and a 2x12 amp. After the guitar costs I had only enough money to get a Crate 2x12 piece of crap and my buddy who had more money than me bought a better Schecter guitar and a Rocktron Replitone 2x12.

I was, and still am REALLY jealous of this amp for what it does.

This is your only option for an amp that sounds good and is cheap. This sucker is LOUD too.

Roctron Replitone - $599.99
120 watts (60 per speaker)

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thanks alot groupiezsuck :), only that i didnt find this amp in any german online stores yet.. :(

my budget.. well i want to stay under $600..
 
If recording is your main application for the amp, then you don't need anything more than a 30W amp if it is tube, or 50-60 solidstate.

Peavey Classic 30 is a good tube amp
Fender Blues Jr. is awesome (15W tube)
If you can turn up a discontinued Vox Cambridge 30, they are quite nice
 
thanks cstockdale, also for your first post! i was searching for this johnson j-station but unfortunately didnt find it yet (at an online store in my area..) - i also think it wouldnt be a bad idea to buy this, instead of "any" amp right away..

i wish i lived in america.. when i look at the prices (and supply) at musiciansfriend or such..... °drool° :(
 
You may not find a J in Europe, as they are no longer made, and a few stores are unloading them over here. The Behringer V-amp is a similar beast, won't be as cheap as the J, but less expensive than a POD (which if you can afford, the POD xt is the best of the modelling lot).

I do agree that it is not worth just buying any amp. I played acoustic for 8 years before ever picking up an electric. I know how to play the 6-string, but it has taken me another 2 yrs on electric to really learn to appreciate what you can make an amp do, and what it can't do. I initially just bought any amp, and have since traded it in. But the J-station is still in use in my studio even though I also have three real amps that I really like. If you got a POD, the same would hold true.
 
i believe the guitarist from blink uses a mesa boogie amp. you may be able to find a combo in ur price range. i woudl think that if you looked hard enough you would definitely be able to find a used one in ur price range.

i think you want a higher gain amp, so i would stay away from the vox or the fender........although they have amazing clean sounds they lack distortion.

i would go with a marshall, mesa, or rivera tube amp........unless you really want to use ur distortion pedal..........then you would definitely want to go with the vox or fender.

just letting everyone know that i don't dislike fender amps.......i love their clean sound, but i hate their distortion and i don't think that you should have to use a distortion pedal once you've paid the money for a good amp.
 
donkeystyle said:
just letting everyone know that i don't dislike fender amps.......i love their clean sound, but i hate their distortion and i don't think that you should have to use a distortion pedal once you've paid the money for a good amp.

You should try an OVERDRIVE pedal. If you run a Fender tube amp wide open with an overdrive pedal it will rival the sustain of a good Marshall...with even better clean to boot.
 
Try finding a Mesa/Boogie Subway Rocket - they go for around 400 used, have great crunch and scooped tones - all tube 20 watts - good size for recording.

Any decent small tube amp can sound killer with the right pedals. Crate and Ampeg make small, cheap tube amps that sound good. (as you can see - I'm all in favor of tubes, having owned a line6 and a few solid states in my life) find the right pedal for it and blaze...
 
Pop/punk + a hefty budget = Mesa

NFG, Blink they all use mesa. In my band, which started as pop/punk, but now is more pop/rock (we grew up) the guitarists both use marshal 4x12s one with a mesa boogie dual rectifier, the other with a peavy classic 50. Both get great tones, so if you could find a peavy classic 30 combo or a mesa combo (though I'm not sure how the mesa combos compare to the rectifier series amps) you should be set.

Eric

P.S. another friend of mine just did a world class recording, pop/punkish music, he said that they didn't use one mesa or marshall. He said the guy pulled out all kinds of vintage amps including vox combos. I understand it's a little bit tougher to get hi gain out of older amps, but in the studio all you're worrying about is sound, not ease of switching channels onstage, so your options are less limited. If you can find something used for cheap, it might be worth a try.
 
Ron,
I am selling my POD-Pro. It's in brand new condition(18 months old). No scratches or dings. Box, power cable, manual, CD, everything intact in new condition.

Will sell for $375.00 + shipping/insurance.

I am selling it because I got a FLextone III, because I am planning to gig with bands.

Thanks.
 
Look into the Sovteks. Mig-50, 60, and even 100 (they're really loud though i have one). I don't play pop punk but i CAN get a sound for it with this amp. You can pick them up from ebay for liek 200-350 bucks. Best thing? They're 100% tube :D
 
whoa ppl thanks a bunch u all provide me with great input!! :D :D

yea i know my inspiration's (blink-182) guitar sound comes from those mesa beasts.. but damn they are not what i call cheap :)

but though, i see alot of positive comments on their amps, should perfectly match what i am playing.. (trying to play? rofl)

amt7565, thanks alot, but i'm really more interested in a kick-ass amp, rather then spending much on an effect processor (this is what we're talking about right??) - although i know this is like THE amp/effects modeller..
but i will get back to you if i should change my mind, thanks for the great offer i really appreciate it! :)
PS: could you maybe give me a link to this item on an online store? cause i had a look for POD-pro, and well there are these rack-things and the cardioid-shaped things.. (a little confused here lol :))

yea thanks again everybody! :D
 
I say a used Marshall JCM 900 combo is in your budget. A strat thru that will give you the blink sound.
 
I'll second the Mig. But unless you want it really loud, go for a 50 or 60. I would recommend trying before you buy, because they may not be for everybody. Also, they don't have channel switching or any included effects like tremelo or reverb.
 
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