My Project Mix Madness Thread.

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I am wondering so many things about the Project Mix I/O

After finishing a few songs for a band's demo that turned out fairly well with my Project Mix I/O, I realized that I have no idea whether or not I am using this thing to it's full potential. I use several things in addition to it. A Presonus Digimax D8 ADAT box, an Old Soundcraft mixer with Transformer mic pres (This has unbalanced Direct outs that are post EQ that I added myself that go to the project mix line ins. The coloration and warmth of the sound is really noticeable when doing an AB between the soundcraft and project mix pres). There is also a Peavey SRC-2400 24 channel mixer that is mainly hooked up to the analog rig but I use sometimes for bass/guitar DI So I can add some compression etc to one or the other before protools.

That's the basic rundown..

I am wondering where I have room for improvement. Is 16 simultaneous channels all I will be able to do with this interface?

How would I go about using the ADAT output and what are it's benefits? What does the Word Clock do? Because my ADAT works fine without it? I would like to have more line inputs as opposed to mic preamps because the SoundCraft mixer has proven how much better outboard pres can be, and right now I only have 8 because the Digimax does not have any. the Soundcraft also has phantom power separately on every channel So I dont have to send phantom to all 8 mics if I were using the project mix ones.

My recordings are continuously getting better with better gear and knowledge/experience, But I just realized how little I know about using the project mix to it's full potential. I got the project mix because it was the best all in one for getting a lot of digital tracks, and a control surface. I usually dont record using all 16 inputs simultaneously, unless it is live/full band playing. Having more inputs helps the session move more smoothly so that I don't have to move mics around. And also makes fixing things later much more acurate and smooth. For example I used to have to take mics off the drumset after recording drums in order to do guitars etc.. Now that was back before I had enough mics to take up all 16 inputs but now I can.

Lastly, the preamp on channel 6 is busted.. It is a loud staticy noise that is coming thorough CONSTANTLY. It is completely unusable. Perhaps I could fix it. Perhaps the fact that there is still signal coming through it similar to pink noise might help somebody reveal the problem as it is not a silent sort of dead.

Phew.. thats all for now :)
 
Man that is one jumble of info.
You're recording to protools? How many and what kind of inputs there?
Do you want to mix outboard/analog or just want to use the mixers as inputs?
How would I go about using the ADAT output and what are it's benefits? What does the Word Clock do? Because my ADAT works fine without it?
ADAT caries clock synchronization signal along with the audio. W/C is sync only. Which and how best depends.. First things first. :)
 
Yes Protools M-Powered.

The project mix has 8 XLR mic inputs, and 8 1/4" line inputs.

The Presonus ADAT has 8 MIC inputs and 2 instrument inputs (which is a 1/4" input that hits the mic preamp?) So I only have 8 actual line level inputs. The Presonus pres are pretty good but I like to avoid the project mix ones because they are only "Alright". I use the SoundCraft mixer as a front end then that goes to the project mix line ins.

That's the inputs. I'm pretty sure in terms of inputs 16 is the largest number of tracks (15 since 1 of the pres is dead) that I can do simultaneously. The driver for the Project mix lets me choose between SPIDIF or ADAT as my digital I/O.

I have never really thought about mixing using outboard.. Is that even possible? I only have 4 outputs right now. 8 more if I use the ADAT outputs but I dont know what I would set that up with. Is there a box that will take the ADAT output and turn it into 8 analog outputs?

Damn.. I never realized just how much of a beast this thing is. There are so many options! :eek: ;)
 
I have a few more questions about the project mix along with the post above.

Can the balanced line inputs be used with unbalanced cables? My Soundcraft mixer that I am adding unbalanced direct outputs to will be my primary front end for the project mix as I am starting to avoid the pres on it.

Also.. What do people here think about getting mods from Black Lion Audio? Has anybody had their project mix modded by them?

Thanks :)
 
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