My monitor arrangement. Am I crazy?

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Hello everybody. I found a site for speakers. I will like to know the professional opinion from Bobbsy, Miroslav, etc. I was stunned about the prices....Please look
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P.D. I'm not alowed to post a site adress, the name is HigherFi.com
 
These http://www.higherfi.com/audio_speakers/1 are priced for the people who really have everything and just need to buy the most expensive things to feel better about themselves.

On their speaker packages, some are reasonable....but if I was going to drop $5-6k on speakers for the studio, I would still rather get some ADAM or DynaAudio studio monitors...etc....that are designed for studio use.
IOW...why buy Hi-Fi to use for monitoring when you can just by studio monitors?

I guess if you already have high-end stereo speakers and you don't want to spend any more $$$.....that's something else to ponder.
 
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Yes, I agree with you.... I think the prices are absolutely ridiculous....
 
Another question. These speakers so pricey worth the money? So, the specs are worthing that tons of money? Like to know your point of view...Thanks.
 
I don't look at Hi-Fi speakers too often....while some of the components may be of high cost, there's also a lot of "snake oil" sold in the audiophile world.
One of my favorites is the very expensive wooden knobs that are supposed to improve the sound quality. :)
 
miroslav said:
I don't look at Hi-Fi speakers too often....while some of the components may be of high cost, there's also a lot of "snake oil" sold in the audiophile world.
One of my favorites is the very expensive wooden knobs that are supposed to improve the sound quality. :)
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:) one I saw implied the cabs wall resonances' as if some 'aid to warmth', in countering 'dry 'sterile or some such.
Give me your best attempt at tight please. I'll do my own decay' times
 
Ainaudio said:
Use any monitors you like, but do not use them the same time as multi-point sound sources.
Your sound picture will be smeared out, it is principle wrong.
They will sound wronger as separately.
Check low frequencies with one pair and details with other this case.
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I know it's wrong in theory but I have done some mixes for various clients who complemented me on the sound of them. They have been mainly orchestral style pieces and I don't master them myself so maybe it's just a freak.
 
rodal said:
Another question. These speakers so pricey worth the money? So, the specs are worthing that tons of money? Like to know your point of view...Thanks.
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Those prices are, in my opinion, out of the realms of "good technology" and into "snake oil". I'm sorry, but I can't see how any speaker could be worth a six or seven figure sum--well, at least not unless it was fashioned from pure gold.

Most of these strike me as the speaker equivalent of a thousand dollar mains lead.
 
Sorry for hi-jacking this tread but instead of starting another one about the same topic i was going to ask the same question, here is a picture of my studio View attachment 81081 i have 2 M-Audio BX5s and a Mission M31 on the floor this is only used for bass as the BX5s lack in that department is my position of my speakers ok i know i could improve on what i have but can't afford it at the mo so this may do but i like the sound im getting so its not a problem only where i have the Mission
 
MeltdownStudio said:
Sorry for hi-jacking this tread but instead of starting another one about the same topic i was going to ask the same question, here is a picture of my studio View attachment 81081 i have 2 M-Audio BX5s and a Mission M31 on the floor this is only used for bass as the BX5s lack in that department is my position of my speakers ok i know i could improve on what i have but can't afford it at the mo so this may do but i like the sound im getting so its not a problem only where i have the Mission
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I do have them vertical now
 
Quit fuckin around :rolleyes:
Here ya go.
JBL Professional :: Recording & Broadcast :: M2 Master Reference Monitor
The whole system comes in at $20k

I wanted to toss in something about their listening preference' vs accuracy' trials, found this. Down about pg15 to skip past all the other stuff (of course all that other stuff's just for getting that 'home' audio crowd up to speed right..? :D
http://www.harman.com/EN-US/OurCompany/Innovation/Documents/White Papers/LoudspeakersandRoomsPt2.pdf

"Home audio"... :)
http://eu.jbl.com/jbl_product_detail_eu/jbl-studio-monitor-4429.html
 
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I believe the main issue is to have the speakers accurately reproduce the sound, in other words no colouring you can get fairly accurate Hi Fi speakers all you need to do is look at the graph, if it can stay within a couple of db all the way through the sound spectrum you should be fine. I have some decent EPI I use plus some accurate Stark Designs and they do the job fine. Just remember to put something between the speakers and the surface they are sitting on and have the right height for the job.
 
T Sat said:
I believe the main issue is to have the speakers accurately reproduce the sound, in other words no colouring you can get fairly accurate Hi Fi speakers all you need to do is look at the graph, if it can stay within a couple of db all the way through the sound spectrum you should be fine. I have some decent EPI I use plus some accurate Stark Designs and they do the job fine. Just remember to put something between the speakers and the surface they are sitting on and have the right height for the job.
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Look at what graph? :facepalm:
 
"all you need to do is look at the graph, if it can stay within a couple of db all the way through the sound spectrum you should be fine"

Sorry T SAT but that just is not the case. Frequency plots of loudspeakers are avery blunt instrument and tell you virtually nothing about how the system sounds except in the broadest terms .

Obviously if the response dives off at 8kHz like a guitar speaker you will lose some "air" and if it is down 12dB at 100Hz and falling, not a lot of heft! Colouration is caused by very narrow band peaks or crevasses in the response that do not show up in a broad brush response. A decently flat response is a prerequisite in a hi fi speaker as it is in an amp but like amps, not the whole story.

BTW T, is that Samplitude 11.5 "producer" you have there? I have been running Sam SE8 for years and am toying with splashing £149 on Producer.

Dave.
 
as soon as I think I understand this a bit, I see studio pics of the pros and the monitors are sitting behind a large desk blocked from view partially, and not even very good monitors.

then you hear several pro's saying "I got the crappy speakers because if you can make it sound good on them it sounds great on translating to better stuff.." (aka NS10, ALTEC605, Auratone)...of the CLA who mentions Levinthal or someone doing Gold records on Radio Shack Optimus 7's!! :( I'm confused...just reading the Ken Scott book and again, he repeats this "the monitors were so crappy, they had to work hard to get a good mix, but he thinks because they had to work so hard to make it sound good on those...that's why it translated so well and stands up today, decades later.

and the old concept of pristine $100,000 monitors don't give you what the average joe is listening to, so its often said "whats the point of mixing to 1% of the people who have $100,000 speakers in a $200,000 room".....

and then its back to ear bud pods, and laptop speakers, and pc speakers which seem to be the norm for todays generation....with the car the main "good listening" environment. Ive two kids now grown, and I don't know even one of their friends who have the traditional old school HiFi system, its all digital and downloads. I doubt CD's will be around much longer.

then theres a concept of being able to perfectly hear everything you get more informative decisions by having well engineered stuff in a great room. which makes sense, logically.

answer for the OP...no, you are not crazy. lol:drunk:
 
I've been staring at the OP for 5 minutes wondering "What's the big deal about his computer monitors (screens)? They look fine to me.

I'm such a n00b. :facepalm: :o
 
Not sure if anyone has made this point, but sounding "flat" and covering all the frequencies is not the only issue with monitors. Its detail also. I used to think the EQs in Cubase were not very good because I had to add(or cut) 2-3db before I could hear any change. When I got my Adams I could hear a change at 1/2 a db. You also have to know how your amplifiers work. Some home stereo units (even expensive ones) have compressors in them. That can be weird too if your not aware of it.
 
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