My first try at mastering... Born Again Boogie

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Well - I listened on lo fi cuz it takes all day to down load, I'm on a modem. It sounds good, in mono lo fi the mix seems about right. There might be some loose timing stuff with the drums here and there. I'm not sure if I can blend whiskey drinking music with Jesus lyrics, but go for it.
 
slkeen said:
Well - I listened on lo fi cuz it takes all day to down load, I'm on a modem. It sounds good, in mono lo fi the mix seems about right. There might be some loose timing stuff with the drums here and there. I'm not sure if I can blend whiskey drinking music with Jesus lyrics, but go for it.
Thanks for the listen, slkeen!

Actually, da Blues originated in Black Spiritual music and field hollers. Seems they could identify with the trials of the Israelites and Christ's suffering. The Bible is full of the Blues.

Many Blues artists, Black and White, have done Jesus Lyrics to Blues tunes.

BHS;

CR
 
smokin!!

george thouroughgood( lol if that's how you spell it) does christian blues:p . man that ripped!! timeless stuff you have there.
straight up knee slappin blues, i dont know how you could not like it!!

i listened to theif in the night as well, ya'll can really rip it up!!

peace

rick

:D
 
Did you say that was "mastered"? It sure doesn't sound like it...

It's very muddy and indistinct... and the drums are completely buried...

The guitar tone is cool, but is hidden under a poor recording!
Decent enough song though -- i'd make the effort to remix it a bit to better define the elements and focus it a bit better. Worry about mastering when you have a mix that works!

Keep at it...........!

Bruce
 
Re: smokin!!

fenderlikingood said:
george thouroughgood( lol if that's how you spell it) does christian blues:p . man that ripped!! timeless stuff you have there.
straight up knee slappin blues, i dont know how you could not like it!!

i listened to theif in the night as well, ya'll can really rip it up!!

peace

rick

:D
Thanks Rick! Glad you enjoyed it, Bro.

Blessings!

CR
 
Blue Bear Sound said:
Did you say that was "mastered"? It sure doesn't sound like it...

It's very muddy and indistinct... and the drums are completely buried...

The guitar tone is cool, but is hidden under a poor recording!
Decent enough song though -- i'd make the effort to remix it a bit to better define the elements and focus it a bit better. Worry about mastering when you have a mix that works!

Keep at it...........!

Bruce
If there is any mud left in this tune, it's cause of Jeff's over compression of the all the mixes that went into this tune. I agree that you can only do so much if you have a dead sounding mix to begin with. If you didn't hear it before I tried my hand at mastering it, you should have heard it when I first posted it about two weeks ago.

I can tell you what I did to get to the point that it is now:

First, because it was mashed half to death to begin with, I added no compression.

On the stereo tracks, I used Peak Limit set at +6 db on the pre gain to bring up the volume 100%.

The right side of the stereo mix was about 20% louder than the left. I panned it left just enough to compensate.

The vocals are so overpowering that I could not use alot of EQ on the mix to liven it up a whole lot. I used a Five Band EQ to do what I could without clipping because of the loudness of the vocals and the inability to add more compression to even them out. (I tried using a little leveling compression and it muddied it up BAD!) Anyway, The EQ is set like this:

Lo= Flat
Lo Mid= +1db
Mid = +6db
Hi Mid= +5db
Hi= +6db

Finally I used just a touch of Hall Reverb to brighten it up and PeakLimiter on the audio out to keep it from clipping.

The song (In fact all the songs except Jesus Christ Is King) were recorded "Live" using a Tascam 424MKIII PortaStudio Cassette 4 Track. We have learned alot about recording in this process and the Knowledge gained will be put to good use.

I have listened to this tune on several different setups and it sounds alot better than it did before so, without going back and recording it all over again, (I wouldn't mind, but the rest of the band doesn't want to) this is about as good as it is going to get. Therefore, it is Mastered.

Thanks for your knowledgable comments and I will pass them on to the Band.

Thanks again, Blue Bear!

Blessings!

BHS;

CR
 
Axe4Yahweh,

Gosh,
This is touchy cause I've listen to this tune from the first time you posted it. Now you say it is done which = no more fixing.

I think alot is lost in the mp3 conversion but, if the vox are a lighthouse indication, I'd say that the mix is not done.

That git is getting verbed and buried(compression?)to death. On a boogie tune (and, yes, this is just my thoughts,) the vox and git are equal. GIt speaks....vocals speak....and on and on and on.

Your mix has the band in the back and the vox sounding nice and dynamic and full.

The git should share the same space and volume as the vox. The bass and drums should lay it down driving and consistant.

I feel bad about being so hard but, the song has come a long way and in the end, I think the sincerity and flavor of the boogie has been lost.

Please realise that if I didn't dig the tune (and evolution of the mix) I wouldn't bother you with my piss ant opinion.

Telling it how I hear it............

Peace, love and growth.

Theron.
 
theron said:
Axe4Yahweh,

Gosh,
This is touchy cause I've listen to this tune from the first time you posted it. Now you say it is done which = no more fixing.

I think alot is lost in the mp3 conversion but, if the vox are a lighthouse indication, I'd say that the mix is not done.

That git is getting verbed and buried(compression?)to death. On a boogie tune (and, yes, this is just my thoughts,) the vox and git are equal. GIt speaks....vocals speak....and on and on and on.

Your mix has the band in the back and the vox sounding nice and dynamic and full.

The git should share the same space and volume as the vox. The bass and drums should lay it down driving and consistant.

I feel bad about being so hard but, the song has come a long way and in the end, I think the sincerity and flavor of the boogie has been lost.

Please realise that if I didn't dig the tune (and evolution of the mix) I wouldn't bother you with my piss ant opinion.

Telling it how I hear it............

Peace, love and growth.

Theron.
Theron;

If you haven't read my reply to Blue Bear, please do. It will explain everything.

I agree TOTALLY with you but the other guys in the band say go with it.

There are definately several songs that I would LOVE to completely redo since we have gained so much knowlegde through this, our first try at Multi-track recording, mixdown, and now mastering. But the others just don't want to go there. The majority says, "It's just a demo!" So, whattaya do? the best ya can with whacha got.

Thanks Bro!

Blessings!

CR

PS;

Catch you guys tomorrow.
 
Cool Tune!

I'd say you did a great job considering it was recorded live on a 4-track,(I know,I had two,no easy task!)

The vocals and guitar are really good,and the rest of the mix sounds fine.

I liked it a lot!

Best to you,
Pete
 
muzeman said:
Cool Tune!

I'd say you did a great job considering it was recorded live on a 4-track,(I know,I had two,no easy task!)

The vocals and guitar are really good,and the rest of the mix sounds fine.

I liked it a lot!

Best to you,
Pete
Thanks for the listen Pete and I'm glad ya liked it, Bro.

Blessings!

BHS;

CR
 
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